Posted on 10/10/2019 4:14:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
I agree with your sentiments there.
I’ve had a running battle with the isolationists on this subject, here and elsewhere.
What saddens me, is the lengths people go to, to dismiss what the Kurds did, and as if their past deeds didn’t matter now.
Thanks. I am sure that he UN and EU can sort it out. Maybe Congress has a solution to offer - silence?
The Kurdish Peshmerga are one thing, they will be taken care of. The PKK are communist Kurds who have made incursions into Turkey. There are Turkish Kurds who want their own homeland (yes they deserve one), it’s way more complicated than you think.
Erdogan threatening to turn 3.6 million displaced Syrian loose on Europe should be your first clue that there is more here than we know.
Most of them did retreat that 20 miles. This pissing contest has been going on for a hundred years. It is a tit for tat situation that is handed down generation to generation of both sides.
I have walked the ground on both sides of the border and love the kurds and hate the turks BUT one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.
What I know for sure is that we can not win in that situation. There is no position we can take or no one we can back and be winners.
Trump made the hard but right choice to get the hell out of it.
That would be a valid response, if Mexico truly did inhabit those U.S. territories for hundreds or thousands of years.
Do you know how long Mexico had possession of them? Mexico wasn’t even an official nation until around 1820. Spain gave their claimed territories to Mexico officially around that time.
In 1850, the United States became their official owner.
So Mexico, had that territory for 30 years. Not only that, it didn’t lift a finger to conquer any of it successfully throughout history.
Mexico tried to claim it in perpetuity, and the U.S. objected. We won it in battle. We even paid for it, in two different agreements.
The Kurds have lived in that region for hundreds or thousands of years.
Not comparable...
Thought borderless “countries” were what the Pope and the Dems wanted everywhere. Why are these new aliens a threat?
They should all say “Won’t you be my neighbor?” /s
The “Kurds” are ethnically NW Iranians - mountain people. They spread North throughout the mountain range and expanded into three other countries.
They had their own country for three years - 1920-1923.
After the Ottoman Empire was broken up, the land was divvied up by the Treaty of Sèvres in 1920 and the Kurds got a State. That treaty was renegotiated in 1923 with the Treaty of Lausanne which did not set aside a State for them.
This was all done by Euro, UK and Turkey. USA had nothing to do with it. The Kurds were part of the Ottoman Empire voluntarily before that.
They’re akin to the Appalachian people in that they have their own culture. Other than that, they’re Iranians originally.
If the Appalachian mountain range extended all the way into Canada and the Appalachians had expanded up there before the USA and Canada was a thing, would anyone say we should cut out a chunk of the USA and a chunk of Canada today to give them a country?
Just because you live in the hills/mountains and become your own culture, doesn’t mean you get your own country.
How many American lives would you be willing to sacrifice for the Kurds? Yours being the first one.
I’m concerned that he wants to release ISIS from jails.
Very odd.
Fulfillment of a campaign pledge.
Want the U.S. military to be Meals On Wheels? I dont think so.
Join up with a mercenary outfit, or be a U.N. peacekeeper.
How many American lives would you be willing to sacrifice for the Kurds? Yours being the first one.
Ok?
So what are you demanding, Mr. Bolton?
20000 troops? What is their mission? How long are they going to be there? How much are you willing to spend.
What is “victory”? When will you be shipping off?
The US military aren’t UN peacekeepers.
I think this guy is making a BIG MISTAKE.
A lot of the territory the SDF currently controls was acquired during the recent Syrian wars as a result oif taking on ISIS.
Turkey (or, better, Syria) is quite reasonable to take it back and settle Syrian refugees there.
It looks like Turkey is respecting traditional Kurd areas, though that may change.
OTOH there’s Erd’s occupation of Afrin in the far west- a traditional Kurd area.
Don’t play idiot.
You KNOW just by being there Turkey wouldn’t do anything.
Don’t insult me with such an easily shot down argument.
He bought TONS of oil from them.
He gave them free passage.
Why wouldn’t he do that?
How many MORE Americans would die when the US does what it ALWAYS does and leaves and then has to go BACK when thousands of ISIS prisoners are freed??
Think for a minute before typing.
So you want to declare war on Turkey then?
L
We should leave and give it back to the Indians then. Comparable?
You're right, I don't. Our mission was to eliminate the ISIS caliphate and we did. End of mission........
The Turks have been at odds against the Kurds for decades, it's now their renewed war so let them deal with it.........
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