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California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit
Off Grid Survival News ^ | October 10, 2019 | Off Grid Surival

Posted on 10/11/2019 6:36:35 AM PDT by AU72

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To: dljordan

Billionaires are building bunkers, just as you stated, in The Hamptons. Get prepared. This is not a test.


61 posted on 10/11/2019 8:06:40 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Welcome to North Mexico, Gringo's it...)
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To: AU72
"real story here is Ham Radio is a threat to the government."

Yes it is.

And this "announcement" came from fire authorities, while the state is burning again.

62 posted on 10/11/2019 8:07:00 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: AU72
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63 posted on 10/11/2019 8:07:51 AM PDT by Don Corleone (nothing upsets the left more than the truth)
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To: old-ager

You know what I mean.

The stereotype that only dangerous kooks listen to Ham Radio.


64 posted on 10/11/2019 8:14:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Openurmind
I know I am going to get yelled at by the hammers for saying this, but this elite organization and the FCC should consider opening up a few of the “long range” frequencies for general public use. It’s time, the public being limited to just a couple short range frequencies like CB and FRS and having all the long range frequencies restricted to a good old boys club is not quite fair to the general public.

Actually, it doesn't really work that way. Google HF radio. The only "long range" of HF is due to the very unpredictable and uncontrollable "skip" as the signal bounces from the earth to the changing layers of the ionosphere. It is called "Shortwave" for a reason after all. That isn't "Longwave" It is also so subject to atmospherics that it is only usable to aficionados who know how to make it work for them. Watch an old movie from the 1930's to the 1950's and see how hard it was to stay in contact with the other guy. It is really like that.

HF radio

65 posted on 10/11/2019 8:16:01 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: higgmeister

I know how it works, been in it for years. Some frequencies just carry farther than others across distances, and these are all locked up from public use. These frequencies along with TX power output advantages are only being afforded to the good old boy club and not to the general public.


66 posted on 10/11/2019 8:27:54 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: AU72

And HAM operators provide essential services during and after disasters. CA is really going to regret this.


67 posted on 10/11/2019 8:30:06 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: higgmeister

Just a thin slice of a good band is all.


68 posted on 10/11/2019 8:32:01 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

> you know what I mean

Well, I sort of do. Even Oath Keepers disavows White S..s (not even going to type the word). And I took crap right here on good old FR for posting one of their announcements.

I guess there existed such creatures. I am not sure I have ever known one.

At some point, if white is defined as inferior and evil, many will not be strong enough to resist _reacting_ (becoming reactionary). They will self identify as W S. Will we disavow them at that point?

Only if we want to lose.


69 posted on 10/11/2019 8:34:08 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: Mogger
Ham radio is one of the easiest things for the NSA or you to monitor.

All you need is radios that cover the assigned ham radio frequencies and an antenna, and you can monitor it all.

Transmissions are in voice, Morse code and digital, AM and FM and single sideband, etc, so you have to learn a little and invest a little to hear and see it all, but it's doable.

Encryption, to the best of my knowledge, is not allowed.

What you said is true to a point.

Many years ago in the Air Force we put up up a 12 channel Voice Frequency Carrier Telegraph "Tone Pack." Each channel was only an on or off tone. To a Ham operator that Tone Pack sounded like a special kind of noise. Encryption was allowed. Oh, and that Voice Frequency Carrier Telegraph technology was patented in the 1920's. You also may see it called VFTG instead of VFCT.

70 posted on 10/11/2019 8:34:18 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: AU72

And it is essentially unregulated. We generally self-report violators.

Only one reason they are doing this. Network disruption. Also, they are trying to hobble ARES, which is FEDERAL.


71 posted on 10/11/2019 8:35:20 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: AU72

The bulk of repeaters are on Federal land in the West.


72 posted on 10/11/2019 8:37:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beware the homeless industrial complex.)
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To: Da Coyote
wideband jamming is possible, but many xmtrs at multiple frequencies would required

They have "howlers" that run up and down frequencies.

73 posted on 10/11/2019 8:39:38 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Openurmind
I know how it works, been in it for years. Some frequencies just carry farther than others across distances, and these are all locked up from public use. These frequencies along with TX power output advantages are only being afforded to the good old boy club and not to the general public.

So, you are not talking about the old HF frequencies that Ham operators use, but just wanted to throw in that dig on the FCC rat holing frequencies. Agreed then.

74 posted on 10/11/2019 8:42:01 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: CodeToad

There may be satellites that monitor vhf communications that reach the satellites...

There are no satellites that monitor short-distance point-to-point VHF.


75 posted on 10/11/2019 8:42:36 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot (I won`t be wronged. I won`t be insulted. I won`t be laid a hand on. - John Bernard Books)
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To: Openurmind
Just a thin slice of a good band is all.

Right, hit it while it's warm and toasty. ;^)

76 posted on 10/11/2019 8:44:02 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: AU72; All

CA hams need to find new, privately owned towers. Pi$$ on the govt.


77 posted on 10/11/2019 8:44:59 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: AU72
They claimed that “constantly changing technological advances” has made Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.

This is nonsense.

I was learning to be a CERT volunteer with my local FD before I moved away from California.

They say the first thing to go in an earthquake will be the cell towers. They were relying on we locals with ham radios to patrol our local neighborhoods after an earthquake and report on downed buildings, powerlines, gas leaks, etc., so they can triage their rapid response teams.

I lived in an area with lots of hills and canyons, and a freeway that would cut the town in half if the overpasses collapsed. It was vital that we had ham radio relays that we practiced quarterly so that neighborhoods tucked into the canyons can get their signals out.

Big mistake, California.

-PJ

78 posted on 10/11/2019 8:48:29 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: higgmeister
Many years ago in the Air Force we put up up a 12 channel Voice Frequency Carrier Telegraph "Tone Pack."

Yup, not only legal, but normal in the military.

I was referring only to civilian "ham" radio.

Plus I haven't remembered or kept up on things as I should.

What was your career field in the USAF?

79 posted on 10/11/2019 8:49:46 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: AU72
I've heard the argument before that Ham Radio is obsolete. In 1976 the prevailing attitude among many local governments was that the fire, police, and other government communications were adequate for emergency services and a bunch of “amateur hobbyists” were superfluous to “real” communications systems. Then in 1976 a local Civil Defense coordinator, who happened to be a ham, was airborne observing disturbing a disturbing event at the Teton Dam in East Idaho. Realizing the dam was about to fail he used his ham radio to contact the Madison county sheriff and got a warning out that saved hundreds of lives. Throughout the the resulting disaster and recovery, the phone system, the law enforcement, and fire department systems throughout the Upper Snake River Valley were overwhelmed and suffered from too many people trying to talk at once.

Hams volunteered their time and equipment. They immediately set up both HF and VHF nets with disciplined operators working directly with the emergency response organizations. For the duration of the emergency, hams helped coordinate sand bagging, and emergency rescue efforts, as well as health and welfare requests from across the country. It's not just matter of technology, but also training, discipline, and experience that counts.

80 posted on 10/11/2019 8:49:52 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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