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China's New Aircraft Carriers Are a Really Big Deal. As in a total of 6 carriers.
National Interest ^ | November 11, 2019 | Mark Episkopos

Posted on 11/11/2019 4:51:20 PM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: Jim Noble

Yes; once China goes traveling in their neighborhood it will be a hoot.


41 posted on 11/11/2019 6:27:47 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: The Klingon

Thank you
I was thinking about all thr defensive ships also needed.


42 posted on 11/11/2019 6:29:45 PM PST by fproy2222
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To: Jim Noble

Need scrap steel? There is an abundance in many backyards, barnyards, and even frontyards in rural America. There are some truck routes that I drive regularly, and about everyday I see more and more steel ‘bones’ that I somehow missed before.


43 posted on 11/11/2019 6:31:08 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Why are they building archaic dead ships? As our libtard socialist ‘experts’ lament?


44 posted on 11/11/2019 6:41:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

who cant find a wife..

like thats a bad thing.

plenty of guys here would gladly give them their wives.


45 posted on 11/11/2019 6:43:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Unconditional Surrender


46 posted on 11/11/2019 6:45:27 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Jeff Head

Hope you are doing as well as can be. Miss hearing your insights on Chicom naval threads.


47 posted on 11/11/2019 6:50:04 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: butlerweave

My guess is their aircraft will be V/STOL. Nn need for catapults and wire landings. Used to be there were performance limitations on V/STOL aircraft . Don’t know if that still holds true. I do know the difficulty of landing on a carrier was a major reason for the Russkies not going in that direction.


48 posted on 11/11/2019 6:53:19 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Vermont Lt

If Iran or the Norks (the premise of the novel) launched one nuke from the gulf what would retaliation really matter to those affected by EMP. I doubt the EMP effect would be as devastating as portrayed in the novel but it would be, by far, the most destructive assault on the US in our history. A strategic launch of 6 spread from all three coasts would crippling. Trump signed an initiative to begin hardening vital assets but is now too busy defending himself from the enemy from within to really follow through.


49 posted on 11/11/2019 7:06:11 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: xkaydet65

The Russian VTOL aircraft didn’t actually work either.

The Chinese are operating copies of navalized MiG-29s off their carriers - they’re large ski-jump carriers... so far. They’re working on CATOBAR.


50 posted on 11/11/2019 7:15:05 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Jim W N

“I thought aircraft carriers were siting ducks and not part of the latest military naval technology.”

Maybe the Chicoms plan to slap around some third worlders neocon style.
Bill Kristol is going to be so jealous!


51 posted on 11/11/2019 7:22:05 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: RomanSoldier19
Could the hollow hulls and empty decks of Chinese container ships carry infantry and mechanized divisions for a devastating attack on Taiwan, securing the island before the U.S. could respond?

I saw a video somewhere, about the Chinese concentrating on building custom containers that can conceal all kinds of military weapons for use within the container. Easily transported, easily transferred between container ships and onto trucks or trains for delivery anywhere. On trucks, these containers become mobile missile and gun platforms. So I can see the day when a Chinese container ship offloads thousands of these deadly containers to spread mayhem. That's in addition to carrying troops.

52 posted on 11/11/2019 7:28:36 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Leaning Right
Back in 1904 Russia got into a little squabble with Japan. The smart money was on Russia, a great Western power. The smart money was wrong. The “inferior” Asian country won decisively.

Yup. Japan completely destroyed the Russian naval fleet. Humiliating Russia. Japan only had a few decades experience with modern ships.

53 posted on 11/11/2019 7:31:49 PM PST by roadcat
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To: fatman6502002

[The truth is Chinese aircraft carriers suck like most of their military equipment. What they claim about the effectiveness of their platforms and weapon systems have never matched their true capabilities. Chinese stealth technology doesn’t work nearly as well as the US’s does; stealth, directed energy weapons and target data fusion are the technologies that are going to rule the next big war the world sees, and the US is way ahead in those technologies.]


What I find worrisome is the fact that, when adjusted for the 7 to 1 income differential, the US and Chinese defense budgets ($650b vs $250b) https://www.sipri.org/media/press-release/2019/world-military-expenditure-grows-18-trillion-2018 are effectively either at parity or tilted in China’s favor. Whatever the current state of China’s weaponry, our qualitative edge will be increasingly difficult to sustain, given the resources the Party is devoting to defense - a very affordable ~2% of China’s GDP compared to the Soviet Union’s estimated 1/3 at its peak.


54 posted on 11/11/2019 8:09:22 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Rebelbase; Jeff Head

[Hope you are doing as well as can be. Miss hearing your insights on Chicom naval threads.]


Jeff has been dealing with terminal cancer for a couple of years now. He may not be in any shape to reply to this thread. This is a time to pray for miracles.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3778149/posts?page=71#71


55 posted on 11/11/2019 8:23:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks for pointing me to Jeff’s post.


56 posted on 11/11/2019 8:32:11 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Jim W N

Not state of the art, but still a critical strategic asset that allows the projection of power globally. The Chinese understand that having a viable carrier force gives them regional hegemony.

Carrier task forces are not as vulnerable as you may think. And there only a few countries that could pose a threat to Chinese carriers.


57 posted on 11/11/2019 8:34:35 PM PST by kabar
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To: Williams

Yes. Just like giant ghost cities


58 posted on 11/11/2019 8:35:41 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: trublu

Add that to the multiple food crises happening right now there


59 posted on 11/11/2019 8:36:47 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: montag813

How much have we spent in Afghanistan trying to help the boy-rapists hold off the girls-school-bombers?


60 posted on 11/11/2019 8:40:19 PM PST by Dagnabitt
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