Posted on 12/15/2019 3:03:48 PM PST by robowombat
As long as Afghanistan continues to be a major source of illegal heroin, with the aid and comfort of its corrupt government and “terrorists” the need for a US and allied presence will continue. While Agent Orange and Roundup have been identified as unsafe, and rightfully out of use, there are other agents that could destroy major portions of the poppy fields openly cultivated to produce heroin that is destroying major populations while funding the Islamic war of conquest. There is the same problem with cocaine in South American countries that permit unrestricted cultivation. Drugs are just another weapon in the war conducted by international terrorists.
Leaving Afghanistan to fall to total muslim control is leaving it to gain economic and extra-military strength to take their war to us; both through drugs and terrorism..
So we’re just cops there. Our people getting killed for what? England tried it way back in 1860’s and Russia now us.
Douglas MacArthur warned us, “never fight a land war in Asia.” We have forever ignored his advice and what do we have to show for it? Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan?
Afghanistan has been at war for 40 years. It’s not going to change any time soon.
Maybe Trump can trick/ provoke/ dare/ convince China to become the new host for this parasite of a nation. My remark is not meant to insult the individuals of Afghanistan. I have known a few. They, just as the average citizen of Iran don’t necessarily have it in for the United States, but those in their Governments do. Taliban still passes for Government over there.
Xi Jinping, president of China, may be interested in mining some of those rare earth elements said to be found in great abundance all over Afghanistan. Let them move in to some degree, the way Chinese are moving into Africa for mining.
Let them do all that ‘dirty work’ all that ‘wet work’ that must be done to manage such a land.
Never is a long long time.
There hasn’t been a single army since and including the army of Alexander the Great, that has been successful in Afghanistan.
We need to bring our people home and abandon that hell hole to the natives.
Just bring in every drum of agent orange and roundup and make sure the poppies can’t grow, then leave.
So we’re just cops there. Our people getting killed for what? England tried it way back in 1860’s and Russia now us.
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Get real. We are no longer in the 1860s when our oceans protected us. Do we want the Taliban using that country to blackmail us with missle-launched A-bombs? Now matter how good our detection science may be, they’d be able to smuggle in a few missles that could take out — wherever you live. And they’re not going to care whether they’ll lose half their population to retaliation.
The first round of Crusades lasted 196 years. And when they were over the result was the same as the beginning situation. Except that the original crusaders did not bring smelly people back with them.
The only practical solution that would produce desirable results would involve massive genocide. Containment seems to be a better alternative. That means we get out and keep them away from us.
If we can never leave then we should take over and start mining the crap out of the place. Mining might provide jobs for these fourth century heathens and start the process of giving them a reason (other than killing) to live.
I thought I saw that 4,000 troops are being withdrawn from there in the next week.
The institutionalization of corruption in the foreign policy and defense/intelligence establishments has become vast since the end of the Cold War, and like an ice berg, mostly well hidden. Touch any of its interests and the reaction is as swift as a rattle snake.
Agree. The only solution is to provide 90 days warning and then turn the place into a radiated hell so that it is uninhabitable for 300 years. Then tell NORK fatboy that he will be next.
You missed the point. Several nations went there to control the place and all failed or are failing; we’re losing people and for what? So what do we do? Go into every muzzie nation that is a threat to us?
Too true and to carry it further, G. Washington said basically the same thing exempting war one and two.
Neuter every muzzie they catch. One way or another it will end.
Agree with you and the author that containment is a better strategy. I knew we made a mistake when we allowed both Iraq and Afghanistan to form Islamic republics. I was in Iraq when we handed it back to them and I knew we did it too soon. We needed to run that place for a generation or two.
This, and. many other things, is one of the reasons I believe Bush jr will go down in history as one of our worst presidents.
It’s the fatalistic teachings of the Koran.
No western country has the stomach to do what would be required to uproot that underlying culture.
Of course, our idiot representatives think importing that sh*t is great for their re-election.
History teaches us that no outside power stays in Afghanistan. The Brits fought four wars, they didn’t stay; the USSR gave it a try, they didn’t stay long; we too will leave. Afghanistan won’t be “stabilized”, won’t change, won’t become modern. They will remain backwards, growing their poppies, sending their boys to madrases to memorize the Koran, murdering their inconvenient daughters and playing buzkashi, a polo-type game involving a goat or calf carcass.
We aren’t going to fix it. It’s not, IMHO, worth the blood or treasure to try.
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