Posted on 01/04/2020 3:50:22 PM PST by rintintin
The fallacy of American Isolationism is assuming everyone else is isolationist as well. Recorded history shows this has never been the case.
Apparently we are buddies with Saudi Arabia.
It's interesting how this little fact seems to have been completely overlooked.
Iraq is a bigger problem than Iran at this point. Iranian militants didn't attack the U.S. embassy in Tehran last week -- because the U.S. has no diplomatic relations with that country at all.
You don’t think that supporting the only democratic nation in the ME is a ‘vital interest’ of the US?
I guess you’re one of those who think that material things are all that matter and that ideals don’t.
That's up to you. I honestly don't care.
"Make America Great Again" actually means something to me.
There was no invasion. The Qassim SoulMan dude flew into Baghdad Airport, and was obliterated right after he got into his Uber ride.
These senior Iranian military personnel have been traveling freely over there for years.
It’s not Maiasia, so it must be Eurasia.
We tried surrounding Iran by ppacing troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, putting the USN in the Persian Gulf, and making alliances with the former Soviet stans. It looked good on the map, didn’t work. (Might have, if BHO hadn’t intervened.) Trump’s approach seems to be having more success, so I’m willing to let his play out.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263798/american-soldiers-killed-in-iraq/
When Trump’s numbers start to drift up, you let us know.
No. And how is Israel the only democratic nation in the ME if Iraq has an elected government?
I guess you’re one of those who think that material things are all that matter and that ideals don’t.
What the heck does that even mean? Ideals are certainly important to me -- right here in the U.S. Anyone else can take them or leave them.
The Iraq government may ask our troops to leave. That would be a good opportunity.
We’re tied to them with the Petro-Dollar, but they are our enemies, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa
Iraq is considered ‘partly’ democratic by US-accepted indices. (I would consider it ‘marginally’, if not only ‘nominally’ so).
Are you a complete isolationist, or do you think it’s important to support countries who have proven that they are trying to grow toward the same rights, liberties, and value of the individual, that we have traditionally fostered in the US?
Thanks for making my point.
They can’t use the oil excuse anymore........We’ve got more than enough to share with the world.
I have no problem supporting them at all. I would even suggest that these are the only types of countries in the world who we should have amicable trade relationships with.
Supporting and promoting them doesn't mean they are all military partners of ours. And it doesn't mean we should ever allow foreign interests to have any influence in our own government here, either.
A look back at the Suez Canal crisis of 1956 might be instructive here. In that case, all noble ideals about "supporting countries who have proven that they are trying to grow toward the same rights, liberties, and value of the individual" went out the window. The U.S. was in the unusual position of siding with Egypt and the Soviet Union against Great Britain, France, and Israel in that dispute. And that's because we considered our own interests to be far more important than the interests of those three countries -- even if it meant taking sides with hostile, totalitarian regimes.
I think supporting a tiny nation that shares our ideals IS a military issue, when they’re within firing range of so many crazies who want to see them all dead.
YMMV.
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