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Virginia House Bill 567 Makes Indoor Shooting Ranges Illegal
Virginia Legislative Information Tracking System ^ | January 6, 2020 | oldvirginian

Posted on 01/07/2020 5:24:47 AM PST by oldvirginian

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To: Sgt_Schultze

Oh, I look forward to jury duty if I’m called again.


41 posted on 01/07/2020 5:54:46 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: oldvirginian

Years ago, Santa Cruz shut down the pistol/small bore range except for law enforcement citing pollution. Now we have to pay extra for lead free practice ammo for police.


42 posted on 01/07/2020 5:55:44 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: oldvirginian

Good grief. Indoor shooting ranges are where you learn to use guns safely.


43 posted on 01/07/2020 5:58:31 AM PST by Mercat
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44 posted on 01/07/2020 5:58:47 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: oldvirginian

Any indoor ranges we’ve ever used are not in buildings owned by any government agency in any state we’ve lived in. What on earth is the problem? Does VA just sit around dreaming up oddball stuff to see who they can tick off? They’ll leave outdoor ranges alone, I expect! In a pig’s eye they will!

VA voters need to clean up their house - majority residents DC employees?


45 posted on 01/07/2020 6:02:04 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: oldvirginian

Maybe I am misreading, but it seems to allow indoor shooting ranges in buildings where fewer than 50 employees work. I have been to a lot of indoor shooting ranges, and I don’t think I have ever seen one in a building with more than 50 employees.

I don’t think this law will actually shut down any shooting ranges, unless they are in a strip mall or office building.


46 posted on 01/07/2020 6:02:42 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: oldvirginian

It is unconstitutional to write laws targeting specific businesses or individuals.


47 posted on 01/07/2020 6:03:03 AM PST by Zathras
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To: oldvirginian

They keep pushing these laws and it will soon not matter what the paper laws are on the books in Virginia. I guess this is what they want - anarchy and incidents they can try to use against patriotic Americans. Northam and his cabal intend to push this to the breaking point and a regulation like the proposed one would not be subject to a 2A court argument. We are simply going to have to stop the tyranny of the left by whatever means are available.


48 posted on 01/07/2020 6:05:28 AM PST by Truth29
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To: RandallFlagg

Don’t think shooting ranges are high employers...

“ unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building”

Will this actually affect any shooting range given this mile wide out ?!?


49 posted on 01/07/2020 6:06:17 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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50 posted on 01/07/2020 6:06:19 AM PST by Taxman (We will never be a truly FRee people so long as we have the income tax and the IRS!)
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To: RandallFlagg
Only, “Government Approved,” shooting ranges, eh?

Is it just me or does seem to attack businesses, and more likely firearms manufacturers within the state of Virginia. The way I read this, is that if I have less than 50 employees, this nonsense need not apply. Emphasis added below:

B. It is unlawful to operate an indoor shooting range in any building not owned or leased by the Commonwealth or the federal government unless (i) fewer than 50 employees work in the building or (ii) (a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers, (b) the indoor shooting range maintains a log of each user's name, phone number, address, and the law-enforcement agency where such user is employed, and (c) the indoor shooting range verifies each user's identity and address by requiring all users to present a government-issued photo-identification card.

51 posted on 01/07/2020 6:08:09 AM PST by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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"(a) at least 90 percent of the users of the indoor shooting range are law-enforcement officers, as defined in § 9.1-101, or federal law-enforcement officers,"


52 posted on 01/07/2020 6:08:25 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I noticed the same. It might affect ranges in a building with other businesses, like a mall, or as part of a very large gun store like Cabela’s, but I don’t think I have ever seen a range in such a building.

Of the many indoor ranges in Houston, I can’t think of one to which this law would apply.


53 posted on 01/07/2020 6:10:57 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: Zathras
The Constitution of the United States forbids Congress and the states to pass any ex post facto law.

This, like ALL gun control laws, are illegal.
54 posted on 01/07/2020 6:11:35 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Manuel OKelley

VA has one heckuva squirrelly recall law.

Voters need to change that ASAP.


55 posted on 01/07/2020 6:12:19 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: 21twelve

Every bullet manufacturers does this.


56 posted on 01/07/2020 6:12:36 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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57 posted on 01/07/2020 6:13:06 AM PST by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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That is exactly what they want. Push you until somebody does something reactionary and then bring the hammer down.

The answer here is NOT to do nothing .....

58 posted on 01/07/2020 6:14:17 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: voicereason
Is it just me or does seem to attack businesses, and more likely firearms manufacturers within the state of Virginia. The way I read this, is that if I have less than 50 employees, this nonsense need not apply.

I think the point is to establish the law, then slowly ratchet down the number of employees to one.

More importantly: What problem does this law address? Or is it a totally unnecessary law?

And more importantly than that: Is this a Bill of Attainder or an unlawful Restraint of Trade?

59 posted on 01/07/2020 6:14:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (I cannot spare this man. I cannot spare President Trump. He fights.)
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To: voicereason; Pikachu_Dad

Good point on manufacturers. Also, I just remembered the NRA has a range at its HQ in Fairfax to which this would apply. I’ll bet that is the target.


60 posted on 01/07/2020 6:14:34 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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