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‘I think it’s Israel’: How Orthodox Jews became Republicans
Arutz Sheva ^ | 5/2/20 | Ben Sales & Laura Adkins

Posted on 02/05/2020 4:06:39 AM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: Eleutheria5

There is also the Republican position that education is the parent’s choice and that they are against forcing you to hide your religion.


61 posted on 02/05/2020 11:39:00 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Now there’s the problem. Hawaii was one of the states Hillary carried, where old New Yorkers, I’d presume, winter. I wonder how they’d like the Green New Deal. Will they be hang gliding or boarding schooners to get back to the mainland? I’d guess the latter, but who knows.


62 posted on 02/05/2020 11:42:26 AM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Republican ideas on education are liable to change the entire political makeup of the country. It’s a magnet to blacks, Hispanics and other minorities, and probably the Orthodox Jewish community as well, which has lots of reasons to go red, and already has to a great degree, not least of which reasons is education. The Dem base could get mighty sparse.


63 posted on 02/05/2020 1:12:26 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: OneVike

“ Don’t be too shocked, in 1932, a good portion of the Jews voted for Hitler.”

This is quite a large lie, oft repeated.

The National Socialists of Germany were openly anti Semitic and had virtually no Jewish support. This is a well known fact.

What is not known is why people like you keep repeating this lie. So why do you lie? What’s your agenda?


64 posted on 02/05/2020 1:59:09 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Eleutheria5
Ironically, the Charedim are historically hostile to Israel and Zionism. It doesn't mean that they don't care about their fellows who live there, though.

As someone from a family that's been Republican since the Civil War, it breaks my heart that Orthodox Jews would have ever been Democrats. But you must understand, "minority groups" are insulated from the moral nihilism the libs pound the rest of us with. The idea is that the minority groups don't have to be pro-gay because just being a minority ticks off The Man quite enough.

People who claim to hate people who believe in Adam and Eve, oppose homosexuality, etc., should hate all who believe those things, not just use them as an excuse to pick on one group (rednecks).

65 posted on 02/05/2020 3:45:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It’s historical. When you get to the Lower East Side after Ellis Island, there’s a ward heeler from Chief Tamany waiting to make you welcome, with a job, first week’s groceries, taking you to the various offices you need to see, and putting you on the fast track to citizenship. If Tamany Hall does that much for you, how can you refuse to vote Democrat a few times on election day. After Tamany Hall went down, the next machine hired the same ward heeler for new arrivals to Brooklyn, Washington Heights, the Bronx, etc. So if everyone’s voting Democrat and extolling the kind deeds that the Democrats do, and nobody is a Republican, you have no perspective. And national politics mean absolutely nothing to an inner city dweller. Then FDR comes along, and the New Deal makes ward heelers obsolete. Now the DNC is the ward heeler, getting everyone through the Depression.

Times have changed. Everyone thought the Orthodox were just temporary, ‘til they got a taste of the good life in America. They stuck together, and in time got wise to the con job. Now we vote Republican.


66 posted on 02/05/2020 4:08:32 PM PST by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Eleutheria5

LOL!


67 posted on 02/05/2020 4:57:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: Eleutheria5
I have often said that this is a winning issue in just about every demographic except for rich, white democrats and who cares about them anyway?

It is not just for religious reasons that people are pulling their kids out of public schools but for moral reasons. The public school teachers will side with child rapists who happen to be teachers against their victims and grooming is so common that it is now considered part of the curriculum.

Those who kick and cry about how the bad parents will not see to their child's education are the same people who kick and cry about those same children being the reason public schools are not able to teach.

They need to pick a side and stick with it. :)

In my state if you have foster children you are obliged to send them to public school unless you get a waver which is not easy to obtain. One public union looks after another.

68 posted on 02/05/2020 5:50:54 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Eleutheria5

not just winter....for years and years vast numbers of east & west coast Liberals , many of whom are also Jewish, have migrated and totally ensconced here. They have strongly influenced the political scenery. ( Sen. Brian Schatz).They have fired up , or replaced , any political leanings that young ‘locals’ have and almost competely supplanted the former Japanese ancestry ‘old boy’ Democrat machine. They are the gateway for all the nasty mainland far Left socialist radicals and Trump hatred . Some bring their Ivy League educated snottiness and elitism . Some are just old hippies and former anti-Vietnam War protestor types, grown old. Who have found a new cause as they settle into their senility years .My observations are based on 50 years kik f residency and accuate political participation 15 yrs or so. I am a local Tea Party founder & organizer. As such I have been highly aware of who my opposition has been composed of . Take a guess. No exaggeration whatsoever...


69 posted on 02/06/2020 3:19:19 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Eleutheria5

PS: We have a local Chabad node. I should approach them and sus out where their sentiments lie.Ifit is as you suggest , they may be tremendous allies in the upcoming roadside big-wave rallies for Trump , which I will once again be organizing and leading. I’d love to see’ trait tsit on the rally line !
Forward to the foe!


70 posted on 02/06/2020 3:24:59 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Bonemaker
Learned nothing from the Holocaust.

What have you learned from the Holocaust (besides to bash the Jews who do not vote as you want them to do) ?
71 posted on 02/06/2020 3:28:05 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: wastoute
One might almost say “stiff necked”.

Oh, someone else pops up to bash the Jews; how original.
72 posted on 02/06/2020 3:29:07 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: OneVike

Whatever faith you profess to hold, you poison with antisemitism. All antisemites offend, evil will come upon them.


73 posted on 02/06/2020 3:36:35 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: OneVike
“Mass society” ­theory, which holds that citizens—primarily nonvoters—on the “social periphery” feel the strongest response to extremist ­parties, has rarely been tested against hard voting data, the authors say. “Class theory,” which suggests that various social groups were radicalized in different ways, has foun­dered because researchers dis­agreed on who precisely was radicalized to vote for the Nazis. Sociologist Seymour Martin Lipset wrote that the typical Nazi voter was a ­middle-­class self-employed Protestant who lived on a farm or in a small community. By contrast, sociologist Richard F. Hamilton con­cluded that the upper classes (white-collar and self-employed Germans) were the bedrock of Nazi electoral ­support.

Germany suffered from hyperinflation in the 1920s and began sliding into economic depression in 1927. The gross nation­al product of the Weimar Republic con­tracted by a quarter; unemploy­ment soared and incomes fell dramatically. Support for the Nazi Party, less than three percent of eligible voters in 1924, rose to 31 percent in July 1932, 27 percent in November 1932, and 39 percent in March ­1933.

The new statistical analyses by King and his ­co­authors show that the two groups most affected by the Depression followed separate political paths. The unemployed turned primarily to the Commu­nist party, which catered to them with a program calling for community prop­erty. The working poor, including independent artisans, shopkeepers, small farmers, lawyers, domestic workers, and family members of the working poor, dispropor­tion­ately supported the Nazis. These groups re­sponded positively to Hitler’s denunciations of big business and govern­ment, promises of intensive de­vel­opment of Germany’s own economic resources, support of private prop­erty, and plans for ex­propriation of land from Jewish real estate owners and resettlement of the landless in eastern Ger­many. Hitler’s support was higher in Prot­es­­tant areas than in Cath­olic regions, in part because the Catho­lic church strongly encouraged the faithful not to vote for the Nazis, and in part because the church ran relatively well-financed social welfare programs.

74 posted on 02/06/2020 3:42:06 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: OneVike
The Electoral Geography of Weimar Germany:

Exploratory Spatial Data Analyses (ESDA) of Protestant Support for the Nazi Party

...

In general, the distribution of strong Nazi party support corresponds to the Protestant regions of the country, with largest values in East Prussia, Schleswig-Holstein, Oldenburg and Saxony. The Catholic areas of the Rhineland, Bavaria, Upper Silesia, as well as big cities, and industrial areas (notably Berlin, the Ruhr and Thuringia) were centers of opposition to the Nazi party.

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75 posted on 02/06/2020 3:49:39 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

Dude. You have read the Old Testament?


76 posted on 02/06/2020 4:07:41 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: af_vet_1981

“What have you learned from the Holocaust...”

I’ve learned that some people don’t learn.


77 posted on 02/06/2020 4:22:23 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: wastoute
Dude. You have read the Old Testament?

Like a sign upon my hand, and as front lets between my eyes

Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of hbis increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

or this

Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.

or this

For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.
78 posted on 02/06/2020 9:36:05 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: wastoute
Dude. You have read the Old Testament?

Like a sign upon my hand, and as frontlets between my eyes

Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

or this

Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.

or this

For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.
79 posted on 02/06/2020 9:40:06 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Bonemaker
I’ve learned that some people don’t learn.

The Democrats in Germany (German Democratic Party AKA DDP) were the most friendly party for the Jews, as well as most favored by Jewish voters.
80 posted on 02/06/2020 9:50:55 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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