Posted on 02/18/2020 4:20:35 AM PST by Kaslin
"And your point is?"
The fact that you ask such a question shows that it is pointless to argue non intervention with a neocon. Have a great day.
As always, you misunderstand
The people of the village of Marikina make shoes, in their homes no less. Imelda was jackie Kennedy to them. They gave her shoes.
They could and then did say “Imelda wears my shoes”
Because some people and organizations did bad things does not mean we should give up working to do things in our best interests.
isolationist drivel
you are a good brigadeer
“With them kissing up to the Chinese’s it cheaper to stay...”
What part of “they don’t want us there” escaped your attention? Are you suggesting we invade and occupy them?
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Those are important matters.
We need to defend freedom of the seas and correct matters here at home.
Pax Americana (and the Soviet/Chinese response to it) is also the reason a lot of tinpot dictators have been able to rise to and keep power around the world, the reason Europe has been able to spend it's GDP on social safety net programs rather than defense, and the motivation for every other military power on Earth to keep expanding and advancing it's ability to kill it's fellow man.
Some foreign allies make sense today given the threats we face and the national interests we hold. Some... maybe less so than they did thirty years ago. Treaties only work so long as all participating parties agree to the terms.
I personally don't think beating a retreat from the world stage, ala Buchannon, is good, but fighting to keep finding a military presence in a location that doesn't want us isn't helpful either. Maybe Dueterte just needs a chance to really consider the implications of his decisions, or maybe we just let it go and his regime crumbles without the economic support of America. We should be at least willing to consider the question.
“Where do you get that from?”
Gee, I don’t know. Maybe from the plain language of the Constitution. Congress is empowered to do ONLY those things mentioned specifically in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.
Handing out taxpayer money to foreigners ain’t there at all.
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This would be step one. Step two, get the hell out of Europe. I don’t think the Warsaw Pact threat is worth the billions we’re pi$$ing away to counter it.
True.
It has always been American policy to leave if a country’s government didn’t want us there.
I don’t understand why people are arguing about this.
Duerete says get out, so—we get out.
Seriously? That is deader than the Kaiser's Imperial Forces and the 3rd Reich's Wehrmacht.
Poland, the Baltic states, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, and parts of the Former Republic of Yugoslavia, all Warsaw Pact nations then, are part of NATO now.
Editorial staff at National Review must be bored and/or tasked with shoring up the interventionism drones in internet forums.
Isolationist? LOL. I was a fan of Bolton until the moment his betrayed POTUS and us recently. I call ‘em like I see them.
Virginia is the canary in the coal mine. We should be focused on that and not the defense policy of the Philippines.
China IS running the world. The USA is a client state of Chinese industrial might. Almost all of our goods are imported and produced either in China or the third world.
If there is no freedom at home there certainly won’t be any freedom in Asia. Look how the Chicoms rolled the kenyan. It would have been the same with Hillary and the GOPe was just fine with that. Graham, etc., didn’t even vote for Trump.
It is a shorter path from Bolton to Max Boot than most conservatives dream.
> Either we shape the international environment, or we become dominated by those who do. <
That’s a fair point. This argument is used to keep the U.S. in NATO, Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, etc., etc.
Rome went bankrupt following that strategy, as did the British Empire. So I would argue for a more balanced approach. We need to be involved overseas. But not everywhere all the time.
We should leave the Philippines, but leave it, just as we left France, when De Gaulle told the U.S. to leave, i.e., they own the land, but not a brick left standing, a tarmac in one piece, etc.
They want it, let them rebuild it!
It is clearly part of the powers granted in Section 8:
1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
Yes, we need to be wiser.
Very tough.
I think we lucked into a wiser policy by monetizing the U.S. debt, and making the U.S. dollar the world currency.
Much of the rest of the world effectively pays us to project power by financing our debt.
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