Posted on 02/18/2020 4:20:35 AM PST by Kaslin
Freedom in Asia may be nice, but not necessary.
Preventing the Chinese from world domination is necessary.
The United States should be isolationist by nature and interventionist in rare, exceptional cases. That’s the only legitimate political stature for a country that is supposed to be built on the idea of limited government. A government that pisses away thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on military campaigns in Islamic sh!t-holes halfway around the world while facilitating an invasion of Third World peasants here at home has no moral claim on any loyalty from its citizens anymore.
‘zackily...
Oh, I didn’t know. Thanks for clueing me in. Well, what about the Soviet Union then, and your justification for NATO is?
“I want, maybe in the next two years, my country free of the presence of foreign military troops. I want them out.”
And the Chinese smile.
Cool... so when Mindanao blows again, we’ll just hang up the phone.
The Soviet Union split up in 1991. It first became the Commonwealth of Independent States, but even that broke up. Separate countries now include the before mentioned Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania), Byelorussia, The Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kirgizstan, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia. So only Russia remains the part we are supposed to fear.
I don’t.
I also think NATO has fulfilled its mission and can disband in peace and triumph. They can have a big parade in Brussels and then our troops (the few remaining) come home. We should keep the huge American Hospital in Landstuhl (my daughter was born there—but now it is a medevac for our most seriously wounded) and the landing rights at Ramstein.
I see a need for an Anglosphere Alliance of the USA, UK, Ireland, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. But the UK needs to flush more of it’s anti-native laws and deport radical Islamists back to Pakistan. The Canadians and New Zealanders need a better conservative movement. In other words, we offer them the chance but unless they clean up their acts no go.
> Yes, we need to be wiser. Very tough. <
Indeed. The U.S. intervened in WW I. That intervention was a disastrous mistake. Then later the U.S. (and everyone else) stood by and did nothing as Hitler gobbled up the Rhineland, Austria, and Czechoslovakia. That non-intervention was also a disastrous mistake.
The trick is to know when to intervene, and when not to. As you said, that’s a very tough call to make. The best we can hope for is a leader who is half-way between Buchanan and Bolton. I think we have that leader in Trump.
The United States should be isolationist by nature and interventionist in rare, exceptional cases. That’s the only legitimate political stature for a country that is supposed to be built on the idea of limited government.
That is your opinion. Reality may be quite different. It appears to me several foundational parts of the United State would not exist under your formulation.
Such things as the war on the Barbary States in the early republic; the Louisiana purchase, the acquisition of Texas and the Mexican American war; the Spanish American war, WWI, and WWII, and the Cold War.
Some of those we might have been better off without. WWI may have lead to WWII, which lead to the the Cold War.
Such is impossible to know.
A government that pisses away thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on military campaigns in Islamic sh!t-holes halfway around the world while facilitating an invasion of Third World peasants here at home has no moral claim on any loyalty from its citizens anymore.
I generally can agree with this statement, however it is prejudiced with many unstated assumptions. When we were dependent on middle eastern oil, and threatened with stateless actors with weapons of mass destruction, it is much muddier.
With hindsight, you can claim all was unnecessary; that is far from certain.
The protection of the oceans have shrunk significantly; the threat of lawless migration/invasion from South of the border is part of the overall shrinking of the world with improved transportation systems.
I doubt we can maintain limited government through isolation; the world will not allow us to do so.
The globalists have suggested many ways to force a nation to bow to their will. Without significant military power, and the ability to protect commercial interests, the U.S. could be forced to the will of international entities, controlled primarily by the Chinese.
It’s not clear to me at all. How does “regulate commerce..” become “give taxpayer money away”?
You really need to sit down and read both the Federalists and Anti-Federalists sometime. Neither side ever contemplated handing out money for this purpose. They’d have laughed you out of the room if you brought it up.
Stop emanating into penumbras my friend.
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You are ignoring the obvious. Paying money to other countries is an integral part of relations with other countries.
That is why no one claimed paying money to the Barbary States was unconstitutional.
“Paying money to other countries is an integral part of relations with other countries.”
Ah, bribery and ransoms.
I guess we’ll just agree to disagree then.
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It is a shorter path from Bolton to Max Boot than most conservatives dream.
Yeah, tell me about it. Two peas in a pod there.
Agreed...
no kidding!
and most of the guys who brought home their honeyco said they met her in church, or she was a tailor. LOL.
They went back to Samar
Now the scene has actually has moved up the coast to barrio Barreto with a whole new crop of “girlfriends”
Pevented???
By what, being the Big Brother that is always bailing out everyone else while they play Chief Runamuck?
Nope, time for them to put on their Big Boy pants and run their own show without us telling them when and where
Pull the crutch and they will move
I assume you meant Mount Pinatubo, not the entire southern island of Mindanao which is 37,657 mi².
Or she worked at the base. Or her aunt introduced them
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