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Why is COVID-19 worse than past viruses?

The 1968-69 Hong Kong flu caused 1 million deaths worldwide 6 months after the first case.

COVID-19 has caused 50,000 deaths 4 ½ months after the first case.

The link below contains a chart for the number of deaths from Pneumonia and Influenza in annual flu seasons (page S5).

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.323.4407&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Notice something familiar? Each year there is a sharp, exponential increase in flu deaths, just like we see with COVID-19.

According to this article, the first reported case of COVID-19 was on Nov. 17, 2019.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report

So we are about 4 ½ months after the first case. 982,000 cases/ 50,300 deaths worldwide

“On July 13, 1968, the first case of Hong Kong flu was reported in the city. Over the next six months the disease would claim more than one million lives as it spread to Vietnam, Singapore, India, the Philippines and on to Australia, Africa, South America and Europe.”

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/article/2154925/how-hong-kong-flu-struck-without-warning-50-years-ago-and

How does the COVID-19 case/ death rate compare with past viruses 4 ½ months after the first case?

I can’t find that data.

What is different about COVID-19 that requires us to respond by mass hysteria and shutting down our world?

I have no idea.

Any suggestions?

1 posted on 04/02/2020 1:06:02 PM PDT by Larry55
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To: Larry55

According to the latest CDC estimate...

Seasonal influenza killed between 24,000 and 62,000 persons in the USA in the last six months.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

I do not recall anyone suggesting that we should shut down the entire country to prevent seasonal influenza deaths.


80 posted on 04/02/2020 5:19:02 PM PDT by zeestephen
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One thing it’s done. Shut down the reasoning capacity of many freepers.

Seems like nobody on these type threads watch the press briefings. Trump has a lot of respect for Fauci. And Birx. And every expert leading this fight. Trump realizes that the action being taken is necessary.

All of a sudden many here think Trump is this pushover who stumbled into where he is and can be easily led around by frauds so much so that he is willing to lead to country into ruin.

Trump is right. The actions being taken are needed. Those Trump trusts have pointed the reasons out many, many times. And personally I’ve heard nothing but the same from experts with no connection to government. The situation sucks. Big time. But covering your ears doesn’t mean that the facts go away.


81 posted on 04/02/2020 6:10:30 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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Here’s a suggestion: Don’t believe the Chinese.


87 posted on 04/02/2020 6:35:51 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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The media is obviously lying about the death rates. They constantly state confirmed cases/death then in the same breath say that is the death rate. Which it is NOT!

The point even freepers and other conservatives are getting caught up in this which is what I don't understand. The fear must of gotten to them or something?

Either way the Media finely has something they can rip this country apart with and they're loving it

93 posted on 04/02/2020 7:29:08 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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Because China is Asshoe.™

Bioweapon.


99 posted on 04/02/2020 8:58:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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It’s a strain of the flu virus. Same symptoms attacking the same people afflicted with previous respiratory ailments.

The media and hyping politicians act like the symptoms are new. They complain of “shortness of breath”, aches and pains, fever, chills and hot spells, lack of taste and smell, etc.

All like influenza depending on the severity. I’ve had many of those symptoms yearly with my pollen allergies, aka, hayfever.


102 posted on 04/02/2020 9:20:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Might as well cut your leg off to cure a headache. Destroy America because of a flu virus strain.)
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Johns Hopkins Covid Map

graphs of new cases

103 posted on 04/02/2020 9:21:44 PM PDT by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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Semi-Dry test run for a future black flag event.

If the new world elitists in control of the media can grab this much control over governments with a a virus like this one, just imagine what they can do with a REALLY NASTY virus engineered in the lab.


108 posted on 04/02/2020 10:41:40 PM PDT by Safrguns
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Election year? More data:

The Guardian (March 21) and some other news media stated that about 80% of people who get Covid-19 experience a mild case [WHO said the same] – about as serious as a regular cold – and recover without needing any special treatment.[1]

Also, the amount of the coronavirus that you first take in may play a factor in the severity of your symptoms (other aspects being equal).[2]

CDC (March 18): among patients with COVID-19 in the United States the estimated fatality rate among persons aged 19 years and younger was 0%; 1% among persons aged 20–54 years; 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, and ranging from 10% to 27% among persons aged 85 and up.[3] 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older.[4]

Live Science reported (March 30) that,

a recent study of COVID-19 cases in the United States estimated a mortality rate of 10% to 27% for those ages 85 and over, 3% to 11% for those ages 65 to 84, 1% to 3% for those ages 55 to 64 and less than 1% for those ages 20 to 54. South Korea, which conducted more than 140,000 tests for COVID-19, officials found a overall fatality rate of 0.6%[5]

As of March 23 Italy and South Korea had reported no fatalities for the 10 to 19 years old age group. China reported that 0.2 percent of cases for these young people end in death[6]

Another study of COVID-19 cases in Wuhan, China, estimates that the death rate among people who were infected and developed symptoms was 1.4 percent. The study, reported yesterday in Nature Medicine, suggests that the overall CFR—including people who are infected but do not develop symptoms—will prove to be much lower in the United States than many people feared[7] .

The worldwide fatality rate (Feb. 29) for those 80 years old and up was 14.8%, almost twice that of those 70-79 years old (8.0%) and which itself is over twice as much as those aged 60-69 years old (3.6%), which rate is over twice as much as those aged 50-59 years old (1.3%) while for those aged 40-49 years old it is 0.4%, and 0.2% for those aged 10-39 years old. 

As regards health conditions, those must vulnerable are those with Cardiovascular disease, then Diabetes, and after that Diabetes, Hypertension, then Cancer.[8]

Relevant to that, more than 99% of Italy's coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions.[9]  Also, three out of four young NYC Coronavirus fatalities had other medical conditions (Mar. 27).[8] 

More on worldwide demographic and health condition fatality rates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Therefore the COVID-19 coronavirus is especially dangerous to the aged and those with certain per-existing conditions, these being the most vulnerable.

However, since you use the word “dangerous” in regards to life then we should consider other dangers to the same. In regard to that, being in the womb means one is very vulnerable as it places one in danger death, especially since America murders over 2,000 of those souls a day[11].

And if we should consider a comparative perspective,  the US death toll from Covid-19 after 2 months (Feb-March) is 5,000[12] (4–1), which is less than the average yearly fatality rate from motor vehicle accidents (over 90 people deaths per day,[13] 39,404 people in 2018 - though many are omitted) which figures to be  a 12.04 death rate per 100,000 population[14]).

And out of 169,936 preventable deaths in 2017, an estimated 125,300 preventable injury-related deaths were in homes and communities, which constitutes about 75% of all preventable injury-related deaths[15].

In addition, obesity and being overweight are together the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States[16].

Meanwhile, though we are to seek to prevent deaths, what is most important is who and what we live for, and where we will spend eternity. May all repent and believe.

Hope this helps. Peace by Jesus 

Footnotes

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/21/coronavirus-symptoms-how-spread-should-i-see-doctor
[15] Obesity: Facts, Figures, Guidelines
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And according to estimates, between 61,000 to 80,000 Americans died during the 2017-2018 season, the latter being the highest death toll in 40 years. During that 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018, (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm) with older Americans dying at a rate of 169 Americans a day, or seven people per hour. (https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2018/older-flu-deaths-rising.html Additional stats on the current 2019-2020 flu season are provided below the table.

115 posted on 04/03/2020 12:34:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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