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Feds classifying all coronavirus patient deaths as ‘COVID-19’ deaths, regardless of cause
New York Post ^ | 04/07/2020 | Fox News

Posted on 04/08/2020 9:17:45 PM PDT by tbw2

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To: BobL

“When NYC has 800 people (at least) die in one day, when something like 200 people normally die in a given day, Coronavirus could well have something to do with it.”

And how will the paucity of deaths over the few months be integrated into your simple minded analysis?


21 posted on 04/08/2020 10:37:45 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: tbw2

When people depend on government for their health and well being . . .


22 posted on 04/08/2020 10:38:37 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: tbw2

Hey, they do the same thing with alcohol-related vehicle fatalities, what would you expect?


23 posted on 04/08/2020 10:45:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: TBP
Keep the numbers up so you can keep the shackles on.

If they go by the antibody test, this virus has barely started killing people. Eventually at least 80% of the population will test positive for the antibody. An endless rain of COVID-19 deaths would be our future.

24 posted on 04/08/2020 10:47:11 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Widget Jr

My mom’s DC listed four levels of proximate cause. Septic shock caused by aspiration caused by blah blah caused by stroke, etc


25 posted on 04/08/2020 10:49:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: JustaTech

Exactly. Soon it’ll be the only thing anyone ever dies from.


26 posted on 04/08/2020 10:50:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: tbw2
Suspected this for some days now.

Many decades ago, the R&R radio station I listened to would start the emrgency broadcast thing with "In compliance with government regulations, and to keep the paranoia at a certain level blah blah blah.

The MSM hysteria reminds me of that, especially as they try to engineer it into damaging Trump.

27 posted on 04/08/2020 10:59:09 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: tbw2

I’ve seen more than a few disgusted hosptial intake personnel getting thoroughly fed up with the bs.

Seems that in the “hot spots”, if someone walks in and says “I think I have corona, here’s my symptoms”, whether they actually have the disease or symptoms, they’re written up as “corona virus patient” by orders of the bosses.


28 posted on 04/08/2020 10:59:13 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: tbw2

We may now sh!t-can OSHA, the FBI, EPA, etc, because now NO MORE deaths will be attributed to workplace accidents, homicides, pollution, etc???

This virus is a WONDERFUL thing, I reckon

WE should be able to rip out 95% of all government regulators

WooHoo for Wuhan!!!

/sarc


29 posted on 04/08/2020 11:06:54 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas
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To: tbw2

Firt of all, they are not classifying ALL people with corona as COVID deaths.

Eveyone read the whole article (which does not match headline), right?

“Dr. Michael Baden, a Fox News contributor, said it’s reasonable to include the death of someone infected with the virus, who also had other health issues, in the COVID-19 body count.

“In the normal course, autopsies would then determine whether the person died of the effects of the COVID virus, whether the person had a brain tumor or brain hemorrhage, for example, that might be unrelated to it and what the relative significance of both the infection and the pre-existing disease is,” Baden told Fox News.”

A guy who show up shot in the head with a .45 will not be listed as a COVID death even if he tests positive for COVID.

Only the silly think otherwise.


30 posted on 04/08/2020 11:22:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tbw2

In the words of Alia of the Knife: “Somebody knows a shit-storm is coming”


31 posted on 04/08/2020 11:34:06 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: Mariner

You completely misread the article.
It does match the headline.

Reread the first 4 paragraphs, or even better watch the included 40 second video of the white house spokesman at the link, this was the primary source of information for the article.


32 posted on 04/08/2020 11:38:43 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

this segment of The Ingraham Angle needs to go VIRAL. Birx/Fauci get called out too.

19m29s to 25m27s : Laura re Italy’s COVID numbers being only 12% of the official total. then she speaks to Dr. Scott Jensen re CDC’s guidance on COVID deaths:

Youtube: Laura Ingraham 8 Apr 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGlMHPWkL2k

more from Dr. Jensen:

9 Apr: Gateway Pundit: HUGE! MN Senator and Dr. Reveals HHS Document Coaching Him on How to Overcount COVID-19 Cases — WITH COPY OF DOCUMENT (VIDEO)
by Cristina Laila
Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota physician and Republican state senator said he received a 7-page document coaching him to fill out death certificates with a COVID-19 diagnosis without a lab test to confirm the patient actually had the virus.
“Last Friday I received a 7-page document that told me if I had an 86-year-old patient that had pneumonia but was never tested for COVID-19 but some time after she came down with pneumonia we learned that she had been exposed to her son who had no symptoms but later on was identified with COVID-19, then it would be appropriate to diagnose on the death certificate COVID-19,” Dr. Scott Jensen said.

Dr. Jensen explained that this is not a normal procedure.
Dr.. Jensen said for example if the same patient had pneumonia during flu season and he didn’t have a test confirming the patient also had influenza, he would never diagnose the patient with influenza on the death certificate...
The document is here (LINK)...

As TGP reported over the weekend, the amount of Americans who are reported to have died from the Coronavirus is based on a CDC coding system that will “result in COVID-19 being the underlying cause more often than not.”
Dr. Birx confirmed this on Tuesday during a COVID-19 task force briefing...
Dr. Birx on Tuesday told a reporter during a Coronavirus task force briefing, “We’ve taken a very liberal approach to mortality.”...
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-dr-reveals-hhs-document-coaching-overcount-covid-19-cases-copy-document-video/


33 posted on 04/08/2020 11:48:08 PM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: TBP

Yup.


34 posted on 04/08/2020 11:53:39 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Possibly


35 posted on 04/09/2020 12:36:05 AM PDT by thinden (How many Barr haters across America are being paid by Soros to attack Barr.)
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To: Still Thinking

And gun-related deaths.


36 posted on 04/09/2020 12:39:13 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: tbw2
Is Dr. Fauci going to do the same thing with influenza?

Of course not.

There is no political agenda tied to influenza deaths - well, not if you are a Democrat, anyway.

If I were a White House reporter, I would ask Fauci every day to compare and contrast his COVID-19 shut down policies with his policies when 1 million Americans were dying from influenza during his 36 year tenure at NIAID.

37 posted on 04/09/2020 12:51:04 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: thinden

I have been in healthcare a coupla decades. These physicians are causing people to go bankrupt. And driving up healthcare costs exponentially for their own benefit. Since the government picks up a lot of the tab they just dont care about the working class citizens they are bankrupting.


38 posted on 04/09/2020 1:36:59 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Born to Conserve

“And how will the paucity of deaths over the few months be integrated into your simple minded analysis?”
Wow you have a crystal ball?
“simple minded” no, it’s common sense. If 800 people die in a single day in NYC, and the conspiracy whack jobs say they didn’t die of Covid, you have to explain what they did die of.
Date NYC Deaths from CV
3-28 222
3-29 104
3-30 136
3-31 182
4-1 278
4-2 188
4-3 305
4-4 387
4-5 218
4-6 266
4-7 806
4-8 716
Another rough estimate for number of deaths in NYC every year,
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day
New York City - not the State of New York, just the City of New York - has about 57,000 deaths per year which is 158 per day.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam


39 posted on 04/09/2020 4:15:10 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: tbw2

You are listed as a COVID-19 death if you test positive when brought in dying after a car wreck.


40 posted on 04/09/2020 4:59:44 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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