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Boston Globe's obituary pages span a devastating 15 pages in its Sunday issue as Massachusetts grapples with third largest outbreak in the country where the case toll has hit over 36,000
Daily Mail ^ | 17:18 EDT, 19 April 2020 | Marlene Lenthang

Posted on 04/20/2020 12:01:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Alberta's Child

Anecdotal trash...unfudgeable total death data for US from CDC says deaths are at a 5 year low overall.


41 posted on 04/20/2020 12:45:48 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Cobra64

17-26 year old’s, not those averaging 79 YO.


42 posted on 04/20/2020 12:46:45 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: mewzilla
Oddly enough, all those names in their obits will be voting D in November.

43 posted on 04/20/2020 12:50:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Jane Long

Sorry.

I meant that to be for anyone who believes every single person who dies in Boston gets on the obit page.

In fact, a search will take you to a reply to this very question from the obit editor of the NY Times who explains that not everyone makes it and why they do not.

So yes, it is fake news and we should be questioning why a paper published in England, who surely does not print the obit of every death in London would propagandize US citizens with such crap.

George Soros?

More British knife in President Trump’s back?


44 posted on 04/20/2020 12:58:14 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: RetiredArmy

Your wife will be a media sceptic for the rest of her lie—which is a good thing. ;^D


45 posted on 04/20/2020 1:00:56 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Why are they called globalists? Because they want the whole world!)
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To: old curmudgeon

Gotcha.

^5

:-)


46 posted on 04/20/2020 1:04:44 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Boston Globe's obituary pages span a devastating 15 pages in its Sunday issue as Massachusetts grapples with third largest outbreak in the country where the case toll has hit over 36,000

It's the flu, bro!

47 posted on 04/20/2020 1:15:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
Just to bring numbers up to a typical flu year.

Yes. Exactly. One month of this is like an entire year of flu. We have nearly the same number of deaths in one month of this thing as we've had during the entire 2019-2020 flu season.

48 posted on 04/20/2020 1:20:12 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: Zhang Fei

The Globe runs the same obituaries for 3 or 4 days.

Makes it seem like there are more than there really are.


49 posted on 04/20/2020 1:22:52 PM PDT by markoman (Cautiously pessimistic.)
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To: fwdude

To bad they switch the colors from red to blue.
Otherwise, we could say the commies reds are dying!


50 posted on 04/20/2020 1:22:56 PM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: impimp
Anecdotal trash...unfudgeable total death data for US from CDC says deaths are at a 5 year low overall.

A friend pointed out to me earlier that car accidents are way way down. I said "Sure. When everyone is staying home and not driving, car accidents will go down."

51 posted on 04/20/2020 1:23:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: Zhang Fei

by sheer coincidence , a boston globe editorial today pins blame for pandemic handling on trump

The president fails his own test

‘This American carnage’ has not abated. It has grown far worse.
By The Editorial Board
Updated April 20, 2020, 12:58 p.m.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/20/opinion/president-fails-his-own-test/


52 posted on 04/20/2020 1:27:27 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Zhang Fei

So, what did the paper’s obits look like on Friday, Saturday and Monday?


53 posted on 04/20/2020 1:45:10 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: familyop

[The so-called protesters really messed up. They did all that they could to turn voters in both parties against our President and his Administration by falsely advertising that the President is with them.

Just because so many of us are quiet in the face of the ranting and raving doesn’t mean that most conservatives are agreeing with the spoiled, criminal minded morons trying to publicly and intentionally spread the disease.]


I’m not a complete pessimist. Here’s an update from WA by a guy who spent years doing ESL instruction in China, and learned both Mandarin (although presumably not the mutually-unintelligible provincial languages) and a fair amount about China:

[You’re in Washington state, right? I’d be willing to bet you we’ve already had hundreds of thousands of infections.

I’m in Whatcom county, and we have nearly thirty dead and close to 300 confirmed infected so far. Social distancing is a joke here — nobody’s really practicing it. Neither the old farmers from Lynden nor the young students at Western are wearing masks at the stores, in the parks, wherever. Yet the virus has been here for at least six weeks, but probably a month longer. Based on these antibody studies coming out, we’ve probably had at least 20,000 infections already out of 200,000 people.

And even if this lockdown has had some effect, it will be short-lived. It’s already over. People are out and about, traffic is nearly back to normal, and furloughed people are most definitely congregating and socially interacting. If the virus comes back with a vengeance, then maybe I’ll grant your point, but I don’t see that happening given the current situation. Ultimately, I think Whatcom county is going to end up with up to half of the population infected and around 50-100 counted as dead from this virus. Maybe 200 if we’re unlucky, but I doubt it, because I think this already went through here in February and they didn’t count those deaths as coronavirus.

It might be different in Seattle, where you have more social comorbidities, but I doubt it. There are tons of illegal immigrants from Hubei here in Washington, so we’ve had this infection from the beginning. Hell, the ladies running the nail salon in the local strip mall are from Hubei even up here in B-ham. We have now had this virus in WA for at least three months. One month only of half-assed lockdown, before which the disease was doubling every three days. So before lockdown 60 days of unmitigated spread. What’s 2 to the 20th power? It’s over a million, which is just about what the antibody studies are suggesting for WA.

So there you have it: the reason the deaths are strangely low on the west coast is that it spread here early and killed off many of the vulnerable before they had the opportunity to classify them as coronavirus deaths, and we’re not going to have another high peak because a lot of people have already cleared the infection and are now immune.]


If what the guy says is a reflection of overall reality, while the initial numbers in China may be fake, the recent fairly uneventful reports on China even from Radio Free Asia (i.e. no further reports of 24-hour-crematorium operations running for weeks on end) may be accurate - the bug might have self-attenuated after months of seeming to burn out of control.


54 posted on 04/20/2020 2:11:44 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: familyop

The real problem isn’t so much that that the Chinese denied access then. It’s that they’re denying us access now. If we knew for sure that the pandemic has petered out in China, we’d throw open the economy yesterday.


55 posted on 04/20/2020 2:25:39 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

In ‘57-58, 70,000 Americans died from the Flu, and we didn’t have nearly as many 70, 80, 90 and 100 year olds back then (less than 6% of the 180M population - today is 9% of 330M) , so it must have killed younger people.


56 posted on 04/20/2020 2:48:12 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN
In ‘57-58, 70,000 Americans died from the Flu, and we didn’t have nearly as many 70, 80, 90 and 100 year olds back then (less than 6% of the 180M population - today is 9% of 330M) , so it must have killed younger people.

With us locking everything down, it's killed 40,000 in a one month period. Did they lock everything down in 57-58?

How many fatalities would we have had without the lockdown?

57 posted on 04/20/2020 3:02:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Problem is that Fauci said we would have 100,000 - 200,000 fatalities WITH mitigation in place!! BS!!


58 posted on 04/20/2020 3:05:44 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Problem is that Fauci said we would have 100,000 - 200,000 fatalities WITH mitigation in place!! BS!!

The Virus is previously unknown. Nobody knew anything about it. They guessed based on what little information they could get. My recollection is that they have since revised the projection down to 60,000 deaths, and I think we are likely to make that.

Will this thing resurge after we let up on the lockdown? I don't know. I don't think anyone knows, but I think we are going to have to risk it. We are going to go into an economic great depression if we don't open industries back up.

59 posted on 04/20/2020 3:13:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I think we are going to have to risk it. We are going to go into an economic great depression if we don't open industries back up.

I agree. The food and goods are about to stop flowing, and when that happens (soon) it's going to ruin the day of a whole log to Couch Potatriots.

60 posted on 04/20/2020 3:18:31 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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