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Apple and Google blatant anti-gun move: Block GunBroker users from bidding on or buying firearms using mobile app
GunBroker website ^ | Notthemomma

Posted on 05/03/2020 8:05:09 PM PDT by Notthemomma

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To: Notthemomma

As a general rule, one should always avoid using apps whenever possible when a browser will do the job. If that means you have to go to a desktop site to do what you need to do, so be it.


41 posted on 05/04/2020 2:50:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (This tagline is an advertisement-free zone. Is yours?)
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To: Notthemomma

Are these software companies potential publishers? It could impact the ability to restrict certain apps. A class action lawsuit might work in this case.


42 posted on 05/04/2020 3:18:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Notthemomma

I fail to understand why these operations, e.g. Apps described in the story, FaceBook, and Twitter are not considered public utilities like the telephone company. I am not in favor of big government regulation but the phone companies are regulated, in large part, to prevent such censorship.


43 posted on 05/04/2020 4:02:16 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Notthemomma

But hey, the Planned Parenthood app still works.....

Yes, there is a Planned Parenthood App.


44 posted on 05/04/2020 4:24:23 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: Notthemomma
Apple and Google are well known leftist companies. They are also privately owned. They have as much right to ban Gunbroker as some stores with wifi have to block all gun websites.

We also have the right to not patronize such, if we choose.

The division between pro gun/anti gun is only going to get bigger. As the left descends deeper into marxism/globalism, they're going to get increasingly radical and un American.

45 posted on 05/04/2020 4:36:22 AM PDT by LouAvul (Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Psalms 9:20)
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To: Notthemomma

all tech companies should be regulated like public utilities or should be shut down. they should be brought under us constitution/bill of rights


46 posted on 05/04/2020 6:28:23 AM PDT by va22030
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To: va22030

“...All tech companies should be regulated like public utilities or should be shut down. they should be brought under us constitution/bill of rights...”

I’m not a big fan of govt. regulation, but these outfits have grown so large and powerful that they’ve essentially become near monopolies and should be regulated as a public utilities.


47 posted on 05/04/2020 6:39:09 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Gunbroker is a great site! But I have no sympathy for ppl still using google and google products! Bad choice to load mobile apps as well.


48 posted on 05/04/2020 7:31:57 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: SuperLuminal
So, based on this outcry by GunBrokers, if I decide to not sell condoms, sex videos, and dildos in my gun store, bakery, or flower shop, I should be charged under the (albeit unConstitutional) RICO act or some (again, albeit unConstitutional) anti-discrimination EEO rule?

How do you get that bunch of nonsense out of what is effectively a censorship issue?

Companies controlling mass communications should not be allowed to censor on the basis of politics.

My reading of the Constitution seems to indicate that I can do what I like with my business, as long as I don't break any criminal laws... IMHO...

My reading of the Constitution informs me the founders intent in creating the first amendment is to prevent censorship. This is a necessary reading of intent because the companies controlling mass communications are now exercising powers previously only within the ability of government.

49 posted on 05/04/2020 10:14:33 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: shanover
I can get a gun anytime I want. If I had to,I can make one. FOAD guv.

Unless you can make your own ammunition, you are still at other people's mercy.

50 posted on 05/04/2020 10:16:24 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo
Just saw this the other day. Realized the salient principle involved must be applied to public communications. Here's a quote for you.

"The “animating principle” behind the doctrine, Roberts wrote, “is that no one can own the law.”

51 posted on 05/04/2020 10:21:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: LouAvul
Apple and Google are well known leftist companies. They are also privately owned. They have as much right to ban Gunbroker as some stores with wifi have to block all gun websites.

We also have the right to not patronize such, if we choose.

This way of looking at things is foolish. It is similar to telling the Jews they didn't have to listen to Hitler's speeches. The problem is that this allows other voices to gain raw political power with which they can oppress the minority gun owners.

Denying a voice to people whom they can censor is a first step in increasing oppression against them.

Our position needs to be "Give everyone equal voice, or be banned from carrying public communications traffic."

52 posted on 05/04/2020 10:28:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: SuperLuminal; LouAvul
My reading of the Constitution seems to indicate that I can do what I like with my business, as long as I don't break any criminal laws... IMHO...

An excellent point, that certainly applies to sole proprietorships, partnerships, etc. I believe both Apple & Google are publicly traded. A few years back, the 'left-tard' CEO of Apple announced that, "if you don't believe in global warming, Apple doesn't want your business" (or words to that effect). My response was - "Hey dipshit! How does telling a bunch of people that you DON'T WANT THEIR BUSINESS maximize value for the company's shareholders? Are you f*cking crazy?"

The same question can and should be asked, with regard to the current 'progressive virtue posturing' by Apple and Google management...

53 posted on 05/04/2020 10:31:34 AM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("Urban Dictionary" - A website 'of the urban dicks, by the urban dicks, and for the urban dicks.')
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To: Notthemomma

Are there not apps from the playstore or whatever for porn? threesomes? and hookups? How are they safer.


54 posted on 05/04/2020 10:38:06 AM PDT by Nifty
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To: Brown Deer

I use an “old fashioned” flip phone. Made by Motorola quite a few years ago.


55 posted on 05/04/2020 10:49:19 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm triggered by liberals and other assorted moonbats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Realized the salient principle involved must be applied to public communications.

I don't think the principle helps you at all.

The concept is works developed by taxpayer funded public bodies - in this case legislatures and courts - can't be copyrighted because everyone should have the same access to them.

The so called public communications systems you're concerned about were developed by private companies with private capital.

56 posted on 05/04/2020 11:24:28 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
The so called public communications systems you're concerned about were developed by private companies with private capital.

There is no such thing as a "private" communications system that requires public participation.

If they want to be a "private" company practicing censorship, they need to be a "club", like Free Republic.

So far as i'm concerned, if the public utilizes a communications system, it cannot be "private."

57 posted on 05/04/2020 11:45:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
You probably won't be able to see this video, hosted by google: Living In The Past


58 posted on 05/04/2020 1:49:51 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
There is no such thing as a "private" communications system that requires public participation.

No one is required to participate in any of the social media platforms.

If you mean their business model requires public participation to be successful the same is true for newspapers, magazines, TV shows, casinos, golf courses, shopping malls, restaurants, etc., etc. etc.

So far as i'm concerned, if the public utilizes a communications system, it cannot be "private."

The only reason to limit this principle to communications systems is it gets you your desired result without revealing that what you really want is government control of private property.

59 posted on 05/04/2020 3:07:11 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
No one is required to participate in any of the social media platforms.

No one is required to use the telephone either, but they will miss out on a lot of social and business activity if they refrain from using one. Same thing with Fascist book.

If you mean their business model requires public participation to be successful the same is true for newspapers, magazines, TV shows, casinos, golf courses, shopping malls, restaurants, etc., etc. etc.

Those are one way communications. If google wants to publish it's own content, it ought to be able to do whatever it d@mn well pleases, but that's not how google works. They allow the majority of the public to upload communications, and they restrict it for anyone who expresses a position or opinion they think should be banned.

The only reason to limit this principle to communications systems is it gets you your desired result without revealing that what you really want is government control of private property.

Communications systems utilized by the *PUBLIC* cannot be "private property".

As Roberts said "No one can be allowed to own the law."

So too is it also true that "No one can be allowed to own public communications."

60 posted on 05/04/2020 3:17:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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