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Police training expert speaks about fatal Minneapolis incident
5 Eyewitness news ^ | May 26, 2020 | Alex Jokich

Posted on 05/28/2020 6:32:00 PM PDT by DEPcom

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To: stuckincali
IF THE MPD ALLOWS THAT TECHNIQUE, THE COP COULD WALK.

The Minneapolis Police allows their officers to carry firearms, too. But if you misuse your firearm and kill someone unnecessarily then you are going to be prosecuted, convicted, and jailed. Just ask former Officer Noor.

There is no reason why this officer should walk. He killed a man unnecessarily. His actions were deliberate. He should be prosecuted.

61 posted on 05/29/2020 6:42:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DEPcom

After reading comments about drugs I think the Officer pick up a bag with drugs in it.

Not a police officer here, I would think if it was drugs they would have handle it differently. not sure


62 posted on 05/29/2020 6:50:24 AM PDT by DEPcom
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To: DoodleDawg

The difference is they allow them to carry firearms. The question is whether or not the neck restraint was allowed.

According to a link I posted last night, a researcher of force used by police, professor from U of South Carolina said a few departments allow it.


63 posted on 05/29/2020 7:53:27 AM PDT by stuckincali
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To: stuckincali
The difference is they allow them to carry firearms. The question is whether or not the neck restraint was allowed.

Even if it is allowed that will not, and should not, protect an officer who uses it to kill someone. I don't know of any police force who would recommend killing suspects unnecessarily regardless of method.

64 posted on 05/29/2020 8:35:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: mumblypeg
Welcome to Free Republic.

Your expertise is much appreciated.

65 posted on 05/29/2020 8:49:49 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The problem with neck pressure is knowing the line. You have to be very observant to what is happening to the individual. When we taught it in the 80s we had an officer in front to observe only and as back-up, even though it lasted only a few seconds..

It will come down to a trainer explaining what training the cop got. If you tase someone and they die of a heart attack you would not usually be charged with murder unless you go overboard on number of shocks. On the neck, the line is not so clearly defined, but to support your point, 5 minutes was way too long. That will be the key question.

Courts have been sympathetic to cops who do what they need to do “in the heat of battle” with a beligerent suspect, but not when they are cuffed and on the ground and three other officers present.

One of the damning things about Rodney King was he had a dozen cops around him and was on his knees.


66 posted on 05/29/2020 9:07:42 AM PDT by stuckincali
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To: Churchillspirit

Thanks, been here since ‘16.
But noobness is relative, right ol’ timer?


67 posted on 05/29/2020 4:38:28 PM PDT by mumblypeg
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To: cherry

Post mortem - after he was dead. Previous poster is saying excessive force continued after the guy was dead. This particular person - the ex cop in question - has on the record shot at more civilians than some combat veterans I know. First time reported, 2006 (suspect died). Second time reported, 2011 (suspect lived, despite several police weapons fired).


68 posted on 05/29/2020 8:14:38 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: MinuteGal

Sure enough, Michael Baden is on his way. I heard this on FoxNews early this morning.


69 posted on 05/30/2020 6:19:07 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler ("NUTS!!!")
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To: Peter W. Kessler
Of the 3 famous forensic experts I cited as possibly being hired by the family, I posted that I thought it would be Cyril Wecht....but it was Michael Baden, whom we must admit is the most fabulously telegenic of the three, LOL. He has quite a following.

Leni

70 posted on 05/30/2020 11:47:25 AM PDT by MinuteGal (MAGA !!! MAGA !!! MAGA !!!)
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