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Violent Protest and the Intelligentsia: Scholar Gary Saul Morson sees disturbing parallels between Russia before the Revolution and contemporary America.
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 5, 2020 | Barton Swaim

Posted on 06/06/2020 6:02:10 PM PDT by karpov

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To: karpov

If you haven’t seen it yet, everyone must watch Dr Zhivago.


41 posted on 06/06/2020 8:40:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: livius

The Russian Revolution didn’t happen overnight, it happened in stages, starting in 1905.


42 posted on 06/06/2020 8:41:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Robert DeLong

Today’s Antifas will be tomorrow’s Chekists.


43 posted on 06/06/2020 8:42:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: karpov

Obama’s Friend Ayers: Kill 25 Million Americans

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/2455-obamas-friend-ayers-kill-25-million-americans


44 posted on 06/06/2020 8:43:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Thilly Thailor
They are wholly dependent on us. They are parasitical on us. If the flare ever goes up, they'd all be swinging from lampposts in a few days.

Don't sell them short. Their primary power is to deceive and motivate.

There are some tough people among them, but mostly they rely on well indoctrinated recruits.

I believe they are growing desperate, because their primary power, to deceive and motivate, is waning with technological innovation.

45 posted on 06/06/2020 8:48:13 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: dfwgator

I doubt it, because they don’t have the brains, just the brawn. They will always be just useful goons at best.


46 posted on 06/06/2020 9:24:39 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Oh, they’ll eventually go up against the wall, themselves.

That’s why they were called “useful idiots”.


47 posted on 06/06/2020 9:26:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Thilly Thailor; neverevergiveup

Good comments from both of you. Thanks, FRiends.

It’s hard to find any historical parallel to what we’re experiencing, for the simple reason that the USA is strong and prosperous. France and Russia were in terrible shape before their revolutions. Our revolution turned out well in part because, even then, Americans had the highest standard of living in the world. Unlike Europe, there were few truly destitute people in the 13 colonies.

If I had to hazard a guess, the source of our current troubles is an out-of-control media. Take away the alphabet networks, a handful of newspapers, social media, and Hollywood, and these Antifa creatures would still be in their parents’ basements playing video games.

Of course, there’s always the question of who’s running who. But I can’t see the RATs as anything but an ineffective opposition party without their media enablers.


48 posted on 06/06/2020 9:26:50 PM PDT by Nothingburger
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To: Robert DeLong

Hitler knew what he had to do in 1934, with Rohm and his crew.


49 posted on 06/06/2020 9:27:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

And if any try to rival whoever ends up in power, for that power,, will be dispatched as quickly as he was. Today’s cohort is tomorrow’s enemy when it comes to grappling for domination. 8>)


50 posted on 06/06/2020 9:31:07 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Yep, think about Strelnikov in Dr. Zhivago, as a perfect example.


51 posted on 06/06/2020 9:32:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: karpov

“There are more guns than people in the United States, according to a new study of global firearm ownership. There are more than 393 million civilian-owned firearms in the United States, or enough for every man, woman and child to own one and still have 67 million guns left over.”

We have about 10 million deer hunters in the USA. These gentleman have weapons that can make sure kills out to 300 yards dependent on the skill and rifle optics of the hunters rifle.

I myself have a weapon that is good for 1000 yards but do not have the optics for that distance. I can nail you with certainty at 500 yards. It should be noted that each and every accomplished deer hunter has all the skills of a sniper, less the gillie suit. I could make one in about 20 minutes with coveralls and brush and tape.

Most hunters and shooters are conservative. We will not go quietly in the night as did other nations without the 2nd amendment.

ps
I was once an avid hunter. I am not this today. I just became tired of killing as it no longer gave me joy. I have absolutely no problems with ethical hunters and one hunts my land. We share the venison and turkey. It is delicious.

Last season we put a bit over 100 pounds of ground deer meat in the freezer collected and processed on our land. We harvest the meat and then grind it with the exact amount of fat we want, which is 10%.

About once a week or so we gather on his back porch and eat deer burgers and grilled veggies and adult beverages. Not a bad gig this is!


52 posted on 06/06/2020 9:32:17 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR)
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To: dfwgator

I never saw the movie. 8>)


53 posted on 06/06/2020 9:34:29 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: karpov
“To me it’s astonishingly like late 19th-, early 20th-century Russia, when basically the entire educated class felt you simply had to be against the regime or some sort of revolutionary.”

Yes, it certainly seems like that now, especially in some parts of the country.

But we are unlikely to see anything like the Russian Revolution and Civil War in our country in the near future. It took a disastrous war fought largely on Russia's own territory to produce the revolution. Lenin was able to win over large parts of the Army and Navy as well as the peasants in Central Russia, and he was able to pose as a national figure against the aristocrats and the foreign armies that intervened.

The elections that were promised weren't held. The peasants didn't get the land they were told would be theirs. The sailors rebelled against all the broken promises and were butchered at Kronstadt. But Lenin got the support he needed when he needed it.

54 posted on 06/06/2020 9:48:14 PM PDT by x
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To: karpov

If it is 1917 the big difference is that the commies will not win this time!


55 posted on 06/07/2020 12:30:19 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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To: Thilly Thailor

I think you’re correct. They “may” have created just the opposite conditions in which a majority of American feel so threatened and bullied that they respond by taking back some of their cities and states. Maybe not all, but a start.


56 posted on 06/07/2020 6:30:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: karpov
Free version for those who do not have a subscription:

FULL ARTICLE: Violent Protest and the Intelligentsia

57 posted on 06/07/2020 9:17:27 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Thank you very much for posting this free full version of the article


58 posted on 06/07/2020 9:37:03 AM PDT by Montaignes Cat
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To: stinkerpot65

I see more correlation between the demise of the USSR and our current state.

USSR broke from central/defense spending an USA broke from central/poverty spending


59 posted on 06/07/2020 9:44:45 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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