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Feds nix college degree requirement for merit based hiring
TechTarget ^ | 7-1-20 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 07/02/2020 12:37:34 PM PDT by spintreebob

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This is why I support Trump...actions like this. Too many institutions k-PHD, too many students, are focused on getting a degree rather than getting an education. This allows propaganda to replace education as the core curriculum. Then, they can't get a job in the private sector and the government sector becomes over-loaded with employees who lack the knowledge and skill to do the job. So it takes more of them to do the job.
1 posted on 07/02/2020 12:37:34 PM PDT by spintreebob
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President Trump signed an executive order making federal hiring "merit-based," which means skills and competency for a job will take precedence over a college degree for many types of jobs.

100% positive development, I wish he'd issued this EO in the first day of his presidency.
2 posted on 07/02/2020 12:39:05 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Now you won’t have to get some online degree from a diploma mill to hang on to your job. Good move.


3 posted on 07/02/2020 12:43:04 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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Too many people are educated waaaay beyond their intelligence...................


4 posted on 07/02/2020 12:43:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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In this case Trump is ahead of private companies. Lately companies have not just been requiring degrees for certain positions, but in some cases they will only actively hire from a list of "top" colleges and universities.

No wonder the professors, lawyers, politicians, and CEOs are only working from the same playbook: they all graduated from the same 10-20 universities.

5 posted on 07/02/2020 12:47:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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At the state or county level, whenever I contact a “governmental” employee (holding a $65,000 per year salaried position) by email, they will always call me on the phone to discuss the matter. One because they don’t want to memorialize their responses and thus be held accountable for them, and two because they have zero writing skills. They are functionally illiterate. If they reply by email at all, it is with one that is a stock reply that has been pre-configured for them. All they do is plug in your name and address. Disgusting.


6 posted on 07/02/2020 12:49:08 PM PDT by 4Runner
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It’s very hard to measure true merit. A good college degree(s) CSN admittedly be a rough proxy in that it demonstrates an ability to focus and perform required tasks. In previous times, it also certified some intelligence, reasoning ability, and subject matter qualification. Except for engineering and the hard sciences, those college outcomes Are mostly lacking nowadays. The commies jade destroyed much of academia into little more than communist party indoctrination centers that inculcate hostile and dysfunctional attitudes, racism, and “entitlement” in place of honest American values, positive ambition, and any other attributes for productivity and success at work or in life. ———- so most college degrees are worthless at best nowadays, and the feds are simply recognizing reality by discounting them in the hiring process. Indeed, much of the real world outside government has recognized this fact years for several years already. BUT I MUST SAY I’m concerned that this casting aside of verifiable standards might lead a future administration to turn our civil service into more of A political patronage charade than it already is. Imho, a really positive first step now will be to cut the federal payroll in half


7 posted on 07/02/2020 12:50:34 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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There’s still the unavoidable problem that every employer will have to deal with: Unless you know a prospective employee personally or can get references who are trustworthy people in your business, you are going to need a system of credentials/certifications to measure a person’s competency in any given line of work.


8 posted on 07/02/2020 12:56:35 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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Winning!!!


9 posted on 07/02/2020 12:57:53 PM PDT by Professional
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Probationary period


10 posted on 07/02/2020 1:07:28 PM PDT by spintreebob
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As a retired federal LEO I fully support this. I would rather work with former military, construction workers, loggers and guys who worked on a Texas oil field then some perfumed punk who's most advanced skill developed in collage was beer pong.

All the jobs I listed above require skill, hard work, team work and tenacity.

11 posted on 07/02/2020 1:11:48 PM PDT by usurper ( version)
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We should allow industry leaders to become teachers too.

The government and teacher’s union wants to control who can teach through certifications.


12 posted on 07/02/2020 2:03:24 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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Many government workers are not even US citizens now. They are Indians.


13 posted on 07/02/2020 3:07:16 PM PDT by jroehl
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“It’s very hard to measure true merit. ...”

A very good and in my opinion accurate post!

As Reagan might say, we won’t be abandoning universities; they abandoned us.


14 posted on 07/02/2020 3:09:44 PM PDT by cymbeline
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Uh oh. Is he ending the corporate crony taxe dodger collusion with preventing citizens from degrees by harsh cut classes. Then they turn around and must hire H1Bs with lousy educqtion, but a piece of paper. O wait he just let 600,000 H1bs in.


15 posted on 07/02/2020 4:01:49 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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You bring up an interesting point. Government workers come in two types: Employees and consultants/contractors. Will we see mid-level management that makes these decisions shift more toward employees or more toward consultants?

(full disclosure. I am currently consulting to government.)


16 posted on 07/02/2020 4:21:05 PM PDT by spintreebob
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True. We are having to “block all emails” from our local colkege. The administrators and unions keep sending out communistic or racist political bullsheit that only serves up distress us why we voted to pay taxes for the joint. They’re using our money to undermine and attack us instead of providing quality education


17 posted on 07/02/2020 4:30:47 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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Very good. It takes a businessman to understand that talent is talent, whether it comes from Columbia or the School Of Hard Knocks. The object is to get the job done, and done well.

I can’t count the times my friend and I, both without degrees, were tasked with cleaning up the messes made by our highly-degreed, but mostly incompetent co-workers.


18 posted on 07/02/2020 4:39:30 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fauci and China can KMA.)
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Post University Degree Future - bump for later...


19 posted on 07/02/2020 5:17:27 PM PDT by indthkr
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I’m surprised feminazis and blacktivists haven’t opposed this vigorously; their unearned reparations degrees forced companies not just to hire them, but promote them as well (under threat of lawsuit).

Females have been over 50% of college classes for decades; they still have little interest in STEM fields - and White guys stopped going to school for them because nobody is allowed to hire them.


20 posted on 07/02/2020 5:47:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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