Three reasons scientists are cautious about the Oxford coronavirus vaccine despite preliminary trials showing it to be safe and inducing immune response

Yahoo News ^ | 07/29/2020 | James Morris

[surroundedbyblue]

You do realize the term anti vaxxer was invented as a slur towards those who oppose government forces medication? But you keep on shilling for the Deep State

Sheep.

[DugwayDuke]

surroundedbyblue wrote: “You do realize the term anti vaxxer was invented as a slur towards those who oppose government forces medication?”

Terms don’t have to be invented when they are the truth.

[surroundedbyblue]

What exactly did I say that is “utter bullcrap”? Prove me wrong.

[Vermont Lt]

You are repeating anti Vaxer junk science.

They are not scooping up aborted babies to make vaccines.

[Vermont Lt]

Thanks for being an idiot. Enjoy your polio.

[rfp1234]

I don’t recall that episode; why are there hamster tubes on the right side of the picture?

[steve86]

Yes, the Oxford vaccine is made with the HEK-293 cell line.

[Vermont Lt]

Sounds to me like the cells are still alive.

[Gamecock]

“The Abstinence”

George’s girlfriend is diagnosed with mono so they can’t have sex. He gets smarter, even learns Portuguese. Elaine’s boyfriend can’t have sex because he is studying for his medical boards and she becomes stupid.

No idea about the hamsters.

[catnipman]

number four was conspicuously absent:

4. Given that this "vaccine" technology is fundamentally different than any vaccine technology in history and has never been tried on humans en mass, what are the long term consequences?

as i continue to post:

None of the current quickie COVID vaccines are really vaccines in the traditional sense of a vaccine that injects virus fragments that the body reacts to by making protective antibodies.

Instead, what these quickie "vaccines" really are is a giant gene therapy experiment to be conducted simultaneously on billions of people. Instead of the actual virus fragments, what will be injected is a live, laboratory-made synthetic virus/plasmid that contains spliced-in DNA/RNA of COVID virus fragments so that your own body will manufacture the virus fragments itself when the synthetic virus/plasmid enters your cells and hijacks their protein-production machinery, with the body subsequently producing the protective COVID antibodies to the self-made COVID virus fragments.

Heretofore, such recombinant DNA/RNA techniques first mixes the synthetic virus/plasmid into a bioreactor containing living cells where the synthetic virus/plasmid invades the cells, multiplies, hijacks the cell machinery, and produces the target virus fragments encoded in the synthetic virus/plasmid. The manufactured target virus fragments are then extracted and purified. These virus fragments in turn are the only active ingredient in the vaccine when it's injected into people being vaccinated. Subsequently, the body produces protective antibodies to develop immunity to the injected virus fragments. The Flublok influenza vaccine is manufactured this way, for example (see below).

However, the "new" gene therapy technology directly injects the synthetic virus/plasmid directly into people being "vaccinated", skipping the bioreactor, virus fragment reproduction, extraction, and purification steps, and instead uses the human body directly as the "bioreactor". This is a technique heretofore never tried before, yet the plans are to try this on billions of people all at once. This gene therapy "vaccine" technology is not even really a new technology at all because it's been around for a while, but big pharma knew that they could never get away with such gene therapy experimentation on billions of people UNTIL COVID came along and the FDA could eliminate the bulk of their previous vaccine safety requirements because COVID emergency ...

I for one do NOT wish to participate in this experiment ...I think I'll wait a few years and see how millions of other people react first ...

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This is how FluBlok influenza vaccine (a conventional recombinant DNA/RNA vaccine) is made:

https://sanofiflu.com/pdf/Flublok-Quadrivalent-Flashcard.pdf

[surroundedbyblue]

I’m really baffled at your desire to remain willfully ignorant

We know that aborted babies are being sold by abortions clinics. Who exactly do you think is buying them? Hint: big pharma & universities involved in pharma research. The cells from dead babies are used in the research & development of most (not all) of the mandatory vaccines. Don’t believe? Look at the package insert of these vaccines and you will find “human diploid cells”, hek-293, WI-38, MRC-5. This info is not hard to find and you can look it up for yourself.

[Captain7seas]

“...This is a (VACCINE)technique heretofore never tried before, yet the plans are to try this on billions of people all at once. This gene therapy “vaccine” technology is not even really a new technology at all because it’s been around for a while, but big pharma knew that they could never get away with such gene therapy experimentation on billions of people UNTIL COVID came along and the FDA could eliminate the bulk of their previous vaccine safety requirements because COVID emergency ...”

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The vaccine makers are shielded from any liability thanks to Congress. If these vaccines are so safe why was it necessary for this?

Why was also necessary to create a special vaccine court to deal with vaccine litigation which has paid out $4 billion in claims for supposedly “safe” vaccines?