Posted on 08/08/2020 2:41:07 PM PDT by Hojczyk
“Americans do NOT want a King! Not even one who is doing things that we like. “
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I think that day has passed. Reading comments..... as long as it is “our guy” its ok. I am very uncomfortable with all of this spending. Trillions. Both sides are buying votes.
Danger.
A Sharpie and a Phone...
It’s a very smart move for Trump and will set a tone for presidential powers for the second term.
The execution of it is not a problem. Deciding whether to do it, or not is. Also, with the expectation that it gets overturned, do you set aside a reserve to pay retroactive reversal? Or will you just take it back in lump sum from your employees in the future? How are you going to report wage expenses ? And then, the correction?
Businesses deserve a reasonable level of certainty.
“Agreed. If he can do this, the next Dem can do it too. We have an executive officer, not a monarch.”
Kinda like “We have to pass it to see what’s in it”?
And even that ruling, as heinous as it was, did not give the executive branch the power of the purse. Something we may come to rely on if we lose the executive but keep the Senate.
“Stroke of the pen, law of the land, pretty cool, huh?”
I agree in part. His actions 1 & 2 are almost certainly illegal and unconstitutional. However three and four may be within the prerogative of the executive based on a very broad interpretation of emergency powers. But I am uncomfortable with the whole thing. We just spent eight years complaining about a leftist governing by executive order. It is more than a bit hypocritical to suddenly start cheering the same behavior from our guy.
Look at the optics of the situation.
Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting unemployment.
Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting eviction relief.
Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting student loan deferral.
Democrats will have to go to a judge to stop people from getting payroll tax relief.
Those Democrats are just terrible people. Trump is trying to help working people. Dems want to penalize working people. They are bad people.
I love it!
The employees owe the money if it wasn’t withheld from pay. I assume the government would have to collect it from each employee , perhaps on the tax return or send them a bill.
This process will give Trump tremendous leverage to have the amounts forgiven.
I am not worrying about optics. I am worrying about precedent. This is dangerous and some of these orders are almost certainly illegal and unconstitutional. We rejected monarchy 246 years ago. I am not inclined to start cheering it now.
In other words, this will make your job more difficult while keeping some others out of abject misery - and you being inconvenienced is the real issue.
Boo effing hoooo.
I own a business in a Rat state, this won’t make life harder for me. Maybe you should discuss operational changes with your employer.
By the way, how long have you had shoulders that are double jointed? You must, by the way you pay yourself on the back so often.
No you benlurkin, not pollyanna. Don’t question your inner-self.
Pat, not pay...
If it’s not legal, a court will overturn it. Meantime, it leaves the RATs with a black eye.
When it’s you against the world, a masterstroke is what’s required.
The last dem already wrote tons of ESp.
Executive orders are LAW until a duly constituted court or an act of congress says its not. You don't decide to obey or not obey it. You just obey it.
Say, I haven't seen you on the unconstitutional compulsory lockdowns and masks threads, to complain about mask diktats being enforced by power drunk Dem governors and mayors have I?
Why complain about Trump's executive orders now?
EOs
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