Posted on 11/12/2020 8:08:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“The legislature of a state can pick the electors, the election can be redone with safeguards in place. Certain precincts can be excluded from the total vote count.”
Only the first can be done. There are no “re-do” clauses in the Constitution and you can’t change the laws after the fact (ex post facto). The exclusion of certain precincts would violate the equal protection clause. Each state is an all or nothing. Likely the legislatures will need to step in, which is not unprecedented. I can see arguments even there, resulting in some states losing their EVs entirely.
We need a major overhaul; national voter ID for federal elections to prevent fraud (which states are welcome to use for state elections :) ), severe penalties for deliberate voter fraud, no absentee or mail-in - you vote where you live and nowhere else, but early voting should be okay with national ID.
Given that we do, literally, billions of secure transactions every day with no significant fraud (and this is MONEY we are talking about) related to the transaction mechanisms, we ought to be able to do a couple hundred million secure votes every couple of years. There is no excuse for this mess, and no other explanation than that it is deliberately flawed so it can be abused.
Anybody that opposes secure elections is compromised.
It’s ALL just rhetoric, until there is sufficient motivation for action. It is a necessary part of the war effort, even if it is sometimes cheap or sleazy. In this case, it is a person of authority going on record. Eventually there will be enough momentum that the MSM and other partisans can’t hide it.
It’s also time for the Hunter files to reemerge, even though they have no direct bearing on the election. They lend credibility to the claims of foreign interference.
Can you elaborate? I don't know about this raid
Thanks
It probably would be a good idea to amend the Constitution to tighten up the qualifications for the office of President. At least one generation of native-born American ancestry, and no residency outside the United states might be reasonable as requirements. It would certainly put an end to the Natural Born Citizen argument.
Well, if there is no prohibition, and since there is no "national election" doesn't that reserve the right back to the states?
The legislatures have the authority to decide how to remedy a fraudulent election. They should exercise that authority.
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I expect legislatures in PA, MI, WS, GA and AZ to hurry into session next week in response to what is coming when the switching fraud and dropped votes fraud is exposed with proof. We might even see one or two demon rat states go into legislative session to addres the massive vote fraud of the dnc and deep operatives.
bkmk
Well said. In short, klama has NO redeeming qualities.
“Well, if there is no prohibition, and since there is no ‘national election’ doesn’t that reserve the right back to the states?”
And that is the fight that might remove some states from the board.
The only certain thing is that if the lawsuits look like they will continue past the safe harbor deadline, the state legislatures must act to see the EVs from their states counted.
The state authorities cannot legitimately certify a contested vote, and if they try, then those votes should not be accepted - but then the two chambers of Congress vote separately as to whether to uphold the objection and it must be upheld by both in order for those EVs to be excluded. Since the majority in each is different, no objections are going to be sustained without overwhelming proof. The state legislatures need to send competing slates if a SoS certifies (it might be a SoS plus governor or some different combination of officials) a contested vote.
All in all, it gets really messy, and in the end, it will be the state legislatures whose slates are counted from contested states.
If no candidate gets 270, because some states were excluded, it goes to the House to pick the President, at one vote per delegation (Rs win with 27+ R-led delegations) and the Senate to pick the VP by majority vote (Rs win just barely, with the caveat of no defections). It is conceivable that Mike Pence casts the deciding vote for VP.
Or we have a hot Civil War. Just sayin’.
“ the other aspect is to shift public opinion so that the courts will do the right thing......”
isn’t that backwards from how it should be?
Courts should decide based on evidence. Not public opinion. An intelligent public opinion should be swayed by evidence as well
The entire media and Democrat party, and a lot of Republican turncoats, and world leaders, and celebrities, are all shouting from the mountain tops that Biden is President.... And you think that has no influence over the courts?..... So, therefore, no need for Trump to do any PR, to counter this narrative?
You’re about as sharp as a ball of cotton
What is a decision desk?
A desk with a butt hole?
I suspect our Founding Fathers considered the possibility. They designed in the recourse: Congress.
Unfortunately, I have doubts on whether our elected representatives have the backbone for hard decisions. I hope they recognize that the choice on America's near-term future has been made, and they cannot avoid the inevitable by surrendering. All that will do is make minor adjustments to the timing.
KA-BOOM!
Nevermind - it was on Newsmax. Here is the interview:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/trey-trainor-fec-trump-2020-election/2020/11/06/id/995772/
What stuns me is that this isn’t bigger news - this was done 5 days ago, and the first that I (a self-admitted political junkie) heard about it. This guy is the Chairman of the FEC, and he outright says that there’s been fraud...is the corruption in the media THAT pervasive? Is this not a BIG deal?
Nevermind - it was on Newsmax. Here is the interview:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/trey-trainor-fec-trump-2020-election/2020/11/06/id/995772/
What stuns me is that this isn’t bigger news - this was done 5 days ago, and the first that I (a self-admitted political junkie) heard about it. This guy is the Chairman of the FEC, and he outright says that there’s been fraud...is the corruption in the media THAT pervasive? Is this not a BIG deal?
It would be nice to be a fly on the wall at the SCOTUS right now.
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