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COVID19 Update - 11/25/2020
My own workup | 11/25/2020 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 11/25/2020 6:54:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne

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1 posted on 11/25/2020 6:54:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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2 posted on 11/25/2020 6:55:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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Pennsylvania Nursing Home (LTC) death stats November 25.

Data from PA Department of Health, swept at midnight November 24-25.

http://www.health.pa.gov

LTC deaths = 6430 (increase of 138)
Total deaths = 10095 (increase of 144)

Cumulative LTC deaths as percentage of total = 63.7

As predicted yesterday: After several days of unrealistically low new LTC deaths once again it is statistical adjustment time.

And a grim milestone is reached with total deaths now over five figures.


3 posted on 11/25/2020 7:02:16 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: DoughtyOne

My 23 year old daughter and her 24 year old husband just diagnosed with it, both on antibiotics? Husband has pneumonia too.


4 posted on 11/25/2020 7:02:36 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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My son was mildly symptomatic starting last Thursday. Test results today confirmed he had it. But all he had was some nasal congestion and a headache. He has been symptom free since Monday.


5 posted on 11/25/2020 7:49:11 PM PST by henkster ("We can always fool the foreigner" - Chinese Proverb)
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To: yldstrk

Sorry to hear that

Best wishes for them both. Are they expressing concern over
him with the pneumonia also?


6 posted on 11/25/2020 8:06:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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Glad to hear he’s doing better.

My family member went through headaches also.

That was the worst of it for them.


7 posted on 11/25/2020 8:07:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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To: yldstrk

This article is a bit dated, but delves into the use of antibiotics in COVID-19 cases. Basically it is to treat or prevent secondary infections. However, “secondary” should by no means be taken as not potentially serious, esp. if the individual does not have a robust immune system capable of warding off both the primary infection (COVID, in this case) and a possible secondary infection (bacteria, in this case).

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/can-antibiotics-treat-the-coronavirus-disease#treatment

Not to overplay or underplay this: A bacteriological lung infection not caught early “can” be a rough ride. Caught early it should not be a severe threat.


8 posted on 11/25/2020 9:17:30 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: DoughtyOne
To figure out the COVID trends in the US, I go to worldometer:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Scroll down to the plots for daily new cases and new deaths. There are two filters available via check boxes under each plot, the 3-day and 7-day moving average. They will smooth out the curves, mitigating various anomalies, such as the reduction in reporting over weekends.

From the daily new case plot, it appears this wave, the third, has peaked, but time will tell. The worldometer US page provides links for each state to pages that contain the daily new cases and new death plots. The daily new cases in many states have peaked and are declining, including North and South Dakota (these two states have the highest number of cases per capita).

There is a large discrepancy between daily new cases and new deaths when comparing the three waves. The daily new cases in the first wave peaked at about 33,000, while the deaths at 2,250 (using the 7-day smoothing curve). The daily new cases for the second wave peaked at about 70,000, while the deaths at 1,160. A bit early to tell for the third, but let's assume 180,000 and 2,000.

In table form:

CASES/DAY   DEATHS/DAY
 33,000          2,250
 70,000          1,160
180,000         2,000

Comparing just the first and third waves, cases went up about 5.5 times, while deaths remained about the same. Comparing the second and third waves results in a more linear comparison. The cases went up 2.6 times, while the deaths 1.7 times.

More data is really needed to assess the seriousness of a wave. For example, people hospitalized with COVID-19 (not just those hospitalized for another reason but test positive), and those in intensive care because of COVID-19. Better treatments have likely reduced the number of deaths, but even so emphasizing the number of new cases is probably not the best way to define the seriousness of an outbreak.

One last thing, the number of active cases in the US, which I assume to be the number of people who would test positive for the virus (there is also a plot for this). Currently, the number is 5 million. I roughly calculated the number of new cases over the last thirty days, coming up with about 4 million. Is it reasonable to currently have 1 million more active cases than the total number of individuals who tested positive over the last 30 days? Most everyone who became sick more than 30 days ago have recovered or died, but I doubt if 1 million of those who survived would still test positive for the virus. On the other side of things, many who tested positive over the last 30 days were asymptomatic and likely have cleared the virus. There are also many who were symptomatic and have cleared the virus. Considering this analysis, I doubt if the current number of infected people is really 5 million. I suspect it is significantly lower.

9 posted on 11/25/2020 9:41:31 PM PST by jasonandtheb
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There is also the reasoned problem of people who were never
followed up on. They were seen as positive at some point
and were never cleared. Every once in a while I see a
big boatload of clearances on one day. I haven’t noticed
one in a while, but guess what, today was one such day.
You’ll see that on tomorrow’s report.

I liken this to the problem I have with the mortality rate.
We see a bunch of new cases and since it takes two weeks to
clear (sometimes less), we see a lag time in a run up of
new Active Cases, with a lot fewer cases resolved.

None of this is perfect, in fact far from it.

Thanks for your information there.


10 posted on 11/25/2020 9:50:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Not sure. Trying to figure it out.


11 posted on 11/25/2020 10:17:03 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Paul R.

Thank you.


12 posted on 11/25/2020 10:20:55 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: yldstrk
I wanted you to be aware of this therapy since the case involves pneumonia.

Azmacort

I am not a physician. I am not qualified to make this
recommendation, but I wanted you to be able to ask
questions of those who are.

There has been some success in treatment with these
inhalers, causing rapid recovery of inhibited lungs.

If I had compromised lungs, I'd be looking into it.

Could be a dead end too, so don't read too much into my
suggestion. I just wanted to give you a tip just in
case it could be helpful.

Take care...

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Authorizes Monoclonal

LINK to Other

13 posted on 11/25/2020 10:48:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thank you.


14 posted on 11/26/2020 5:21:31 AM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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bilateral covid pneumonia

and yesterday was supposed to be the day I was allowed to go out and play. So, naturally, that is when I started to cought blood.

sigh...


15 posted on 11/27/2020 7:04:52 AM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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Oh man, so sorry to hear that.

What did they say about that?


16 posted on 11/27/2020 10:39:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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This note is to let you know I have come to the point
that I need to be doing other things rather than spend-
ing time on the Update.

I won’t be working up the numbers any longer.

Thanks to those of you who enjoyed the Updates.

Take care.

D1


17 posted on 11/27/2020 3:47:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I'm calling for terrorist and criminal reform. Defund them now!)
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Speaking for myself, thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into the updates!


18 posted on 11/27/2020 3:57:31 PM PST by willieroe
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if fever cannot be controlled, come back to er

if blood in spit is greater than teaspoon for 4 hours, come back to ER

once I feel better with no fluctuations in temp or other symptoms, wear facemask and faceshield at all times outdoors


19 posted on 11/27/2020 4:47:23 PM PST by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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Did they prescrib anything for you? Recommend any supplements? Just wait and see is horseshit.


20 posted on 11/27/2020 4:56:54 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (With age comes wisdom or well practiced ignorance )
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