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Navy to scrap USS Bonhomme Richard after days-long fire
The Hill ^ | 11/30/20 | Ellen Mitchell

Posted on 11/30/2020 2:13:44 PM PST by Lower Deck

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To: Revel

These ships are not going to be very useful in a real war. One hit and they burn up.


Certainly, if you turn the fire suppression systems off beforehand.


81 posted on 11/30/2020 4:36:08 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lerker

One has to ask if the ship was designed for war with advanced fire suppression why did it burn up so easily?


Because it no longer had that fire suppression system. It was taken offline as part of the maintenance before the fire.


82 posted on 11/30/2020 4:39:08 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PAR35
They were going to take out the well deck used by the landing craft, and expand the hanger deck (and modifying the flight deck) to accomodate F-35s

They aren't removing the Well Decks when they modify LHD's for F-35s. The first two America Class LHA's have no well deck, but they have added them back for the rest of the class starting with USS Bougainville (LHA 8). The Navy determined the medical space, well deck and vehicle storage were more important than a few extra aircraft. Basically, the extra aircraft space completely compromised the amphib mission, and deleted 2/3 of the hospital space. The America and Tripoli are "ampib in name only", though they can ferry Marines and gear by MV-22 and MH-60, and provide great air support.

83 posted on 11/30/2020 4:52:22 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Charles Martel

“The Navy needs to find a creative way of channeling superstition into an effective fire watch while in port. “

I can’t believe they didn’t have a watch.


84 posted on 11/30/2020 4:54:07 PM PST by dljordan
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To: PIF
There may be. i was nuclear. Not oil. And subs not the surface floatsoum and jetsom And yes, the floatsum and jetsum - the surface fleet got those who washed out of the sub fleet, never the other way around. Never wanted to sail on a target.
85 posted on 11/30/2020 4:57:55 PM PST by Ikeon (if agreed with you we'd both be wrong. )
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To: MGunny

Every sailor is trained in firefighting to at least a minor degree. What would they have done if they had been at sea?


86 posted on 11/30/2020 5:16:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: RayChuang88

Nope. She was already 22 years old. Life expectancy of a steel ship in saltwater is typically 30-35 years max.


87 posted on 11/30/2020 5:17:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If the meanings in the Constitution can change, why did they bother writing it down?)
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To: ETCM; Tallguy

I can’t find anything to support my recollection of having seen a story about removing the well deck as part of the modifications, so I’ll withdraw the comment.


88 posted on 11/30/2020 5:19:35 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I heard one news story that said the cause was arson, but I don’t think they caught the arsonist.


89 posted on 11/30/2020 5:34:33 PM PST by antidemoncrat (Biden's )
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To: MGunny

Probably a good chunk of the crew was detached from the ship’s company for other assignments, schools, etc. The Bonhomme Richard was in for a major refit besides the deck mods. What a few of the commenters (not you) are missing is that without the full complement of sailors aboard there’s very little firefighting capability. The ship was relying on the shipyard and local firefighters to engage the fire.


90 posted on 11/30/2020 5:51:52 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Lower Deck
Hmmm... What a fracking disgrace!

Another reason that we should be thankful to the real American citizens who defended the Nation against the japs, Germans, and Soviets from 1941 to 1960...

With today's pussified sheeple, the destruction at Pearl would still be there 80-years later and the japs would still control the Pacific...

91 posted on 11/30/2020 7:26:02 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

In that case, they might as well scrap the ship altogether.


92 posted on 12/01/2020 6:48:04 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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