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Silver is the new GameStop: Price reaches highest level in almost 11 years
The Associated Press ^ | 2/1/2021 | AP Staff

Posted on 02/01/2021 5:23:47 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter

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To: Zhang Fei

“[So when hedge fund managers get together and make their short sell evaluations and plans, is that conspiracy?]

No - because they have more money to defend themselves from the Feds. Of course, if the people involved in Wall Street Bets are able to raise enough GoFundMe money to mount a strong legal defense, who knows what might transpire.”

Did not answer the question, saying they have money to fight the charge is not the same as saying it’s not illegal.
If 2 or 3 multi hundred million hedge fund managers get together over lunch and decide to short a stock because the numbers look good to make money on such strategy is that illegal market manipulation/conspiracy? If one hedge fund managers call all company employees together and tells them he wants to drive the price of a stock down, employees all say great idea and start carrying out trades to drive a stock price down, are they guilty of manipulation/conspiracy?


41 posted on 02/01/2021 6:22:08 AM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

First notice day for the FEB 2021 Futures Contract was 1/29/2021

https://www.barchart.com/futures/first-notice-dates/metals

The First Notice Dates Calendar shows the first day on which the buyer of a futures contract can be called upon to take delivery, or on which the seller can issue a notice of intent of delivery of a futures contract.


42 posted on 02/01/2021 6:23:02 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Anyone can post on WSB, and I’m sure there are a huge number of sharks that would LOVE, absolutely and passionately love, to see WSB traders dump GME into their shorts and dive into silver futures. That’s a market that can swallow a few billion in seconds.


43 posted on 02/01/2021 6:23:09 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: bert
Free silver 16:1


44 posted on 02/01/2021 6:27:26 AM PST by null and void (Since I'm a punster, a jokester, and a well rounded funny guy, my personal pronoun is "He He")
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To: Zhang Fei

> “If a group gets to gether and discusses some illegal action (such as market manipulation) ...”

Getting together to buy a stock is a long held practice of investment clubs. Whoever wrote this garbage is proposing assault under color of law.

What is ‘market manipulation’?

“Market manipulation is a type of market abuse where there is a deliberate attempt to interfere with the free and fair operation of the market; the most blatant of cases involve creating false or misleading appearances with respect to the price of, or market for, a product, security or commodity.”

WSB is NOT interfering in the free and fair operation of any market operation.


45 posted on 02/01/2021 6:32:58 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: nomorelurker

[Did not answer the question, saying they have money to fight the charge is not the same as saying it’s not illegal.
If 2 or 3 multi hundred million hedge fund managers get together over lunch and decide to short a stock because the numbers look good to make money on such strategy is that illegal market manipulation/conspiracy? If one hedge fund managers call all company employees together and tells them he wants to drive the price of a stock down, employees all say great idea and start carrying out trades to drive a stock price down, are they guilty of manipulation/conspiracy?]


What is illegal? Depends on how much money you have to defend your case in court. This isn’t a moral issue. The morality is separate from the legality. OJ Simpson probably did kill Nicole Brown and her male friend. But he was legally acquitted.


46 posted on 02/01/2021 6:36:56 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: okkev68
I just got silver from APMEX a week ago. The bitcoin transaction cleared in 30 minutes and the silver was in the mail the next day. Paid $29. I've bought numismatic coins there in the past. The grading is spotty. Some are a bit better than the grade but often worse or even much worse.
47 posted on 02/01/2021 6:36:58 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I don’t see the fish biting like they did last week.


48 posted on 02/01/2021 6:39:41 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: okkev68

I am holding for the inevitable Biden EO requiring solar panels on every square inch of US soil. have had the same pile of silver for years and did buy some last week just for fun. It has never done anything worth me holding really.


49 posted on 02/01/2021 6:40:51 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes. )
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To: palmer

Re: 29 - APMEX may be a solid company, but waiting too long can be an indicator of a company that’s selling what it doesn’t have on hand or is not en route to their facility.

For me, when I click the button to make an online purchase, the expectation is that if there is no notice saying otherwise, that shipment of silver to me will be prompt - within days.


50 posted on 02/01/2021 6:41:51 AM PST by Fury
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To: Zhang Fei

“What is illegal?”

In your personal opinion is the conduct I described in the 2 examples legal or illegal?


51 posted on 02/01/2021 6:45:57 AM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Hostage

[Getting together to buy a stock is a long held practice of investment clubs. Whoever wrote this garbage is proposing assault under color of law.]


You may have heard the expression “you may beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride”. Prosecutors can cost you years of your life and a substantial chunk of your life savings. It’s unfair, but that’s the reality of the latitude for prosecutorial abuse in every criminal justice system known to man. They need these powers to go after seriously loaded and influential criminals. The problem is that some of them abuse their power to go after small fry over chickenshit charges because this gooses their win averages.

And in some cases, there’s an unspoken quid pro quo involved vis-a-vis one of the aggrieved parties. Want future campaign contributions from a hedge fund, or the financial sector at large, in your run for Congress or governor? Persecute Wall Street Bets for their insolence in going after the financial elites. What better evidence that you are simpatico re moneyed interests than the imposition of life terms for the small fry aiders and abettors of this imbroglio?


52 posted on 02/01/2021 6:47:41 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: nomorelurker

[In your personal opinion is the conduct I described in the 2 examples legal or illegal?]


I think both ought to be legal. However, what I believe and what actually is the case aren’t necessarily the same. We may soon discover that what is legal for the big players might be illegal for the little guy.


53 posted on 02/01/2021 6:51:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Even the GameStop crowd are saying not to buy silver. I would be surprised if it gets too far down the road.“

I think this silver thing was a diversion to try to get GME holders to sell.

54 posted on 02/01/2021 6:51:57 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: bert

“Historically silver has been underpriced for a long time...”
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Historically silver has been manipulated for a long time....fixed it for you.


55 posted on 02/01/2021 6:55:34 AM PST by delta7
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To: Fury
A week ago my silver shipment was next day (I ordered in the evening). APMEX has contract purchases and if the sellers renig they will have other suppliers. Also a good tell is that they are $7 or $8 over spot. There is no doubt they will deliver.
56 posted on 02/01/2021 7:00:24 AM PST by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: diatomite

Now that is what needs to be watched. Without going into detail, what is the possibility Comex has a “ delivery failure”?


57 posted on 02/01/2021 7:01:09 AM PST by delta7
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To: diatomite

Now that is what needs to be watched. Without going into detail, what is the possibility Comex has a “ delivery failure”?


58 posted on 02/01/2021 7:02:49 AM PST by delta7
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

I got in on AG last week.


59 posted on 02/01/2021 7:09:18 AM PST by lwd
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Silver is magic and kills all bacteria and viruses

And you don’t really need a lot of it


60 posted on 02/01/2021 7:09:20 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Swamp express to communist hell !! )
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