Debate Over Navy's Zumwalt Destroyer's Seakeeping Abilities Doused After Rough Seas Tests

The Drive ^ | March 8, 2021 | Joseph Trevithick

[sasportas]

For you former Adam’s class destroyer sailors, several years ago the word was the city of Jacksonville, FL, was going to have an Adam’s class destroyer museum. The last I heard, the people behind this couldn’t come up with the funds.

Have you heard anything more about it? It would have been a great thing to take family and friends to.

[Pikachu_Dad]

It’s a start.

[SuperLuminal]

I’m so old that only destroyers that have done everything in battle and very often survived are worth talking about...

The Fletcher class destroyer was the toughest fighting, non-aircraft-carrier, ship ever built...

They were a tribute to an America (a patriotic population and a manufacturing base that no longer exists) that could mass produce those babies in shipyards everywhere...

My mother was trained as a welder and worked (12 hours a day, 6-days a week) on their construction during the war... She was also a war casualty, as the rest of her short post-war life was spent fighting illnesses caused by the working conditions...

[faucetman]

When ships were ships and men were men. The good old days.

Now we have surface ships that look like submarines crewed by transvestites, women who identify as men and men who identify as women.

The DDG-1000, performed so well in modest sea trials that the navy will only acquire THREE of them, down from its original plans to acquire a fleet of 32 of these ships.

But it looks KOOL!

[Magnatron]

...Jacksonville, FL, was going to have an Adam’s class destroyer museum.

They were going to take the Charles F. Adams there and there was a fundraising attempt to pay for it. I don't think they raised enough money. The Adams was in the reserve basin at the old Philadelphia Naval Shipyard last I saw. Unfortunately, she was in pretty poor shape. Since then, last year, they were moving her to Brownsville, Texas to be scrapped:

I never felt so old as the day I flew into Philly and looked out the window and saw her below in the reserve basin -- retired and looking very worn.

[minnesota_bound]

Surfers surf waves bigger then that : )

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

A working S-Band radar would be nice.

[Cuttnhorse]

Was the Vogelgesang a Sumner Class Can?

I was QM2 on the Ault...great ship...stationed out of Mayport when I was on her.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Used to be “Wooden Ships and Iron Men.”
Then, “Iron Ships and Steel-Eyed Men.”
Now, “Paper Ships and WouldBe men.”

[TexasGator]

“The Fletcher class destroyer was the toughest fighting, non-aircraft-carrier, ship ever built...’

Actually, not.

[SuperLuminal]

"Actually, not."

Actually, my opinion, as implied, was based on their war records and battles fought...
So I'll stick to my origin statement and add: "IMHO" 😀

[fortes fortuna juvat]

Nothing but coffee and horse cock sandwiches. For four days.
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Horse cock sandwiches? Never saw that one on McDonald’s menu!

[fortes fortuna juvat]

I bet Trump could have had 20 destroyers designed, built, tested and deployed in 10 years for that same amount of money.
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Might be one of the reasons he was forced into exile!

[Mariner]

Bologna.

[sasportas]

I wish I hadn’t seen these pictures. Sad, the ship our destroyer class is named after in such condition.

And we see now why it would have cost too much to get her in good enough shape for the Jacksonville Museum.

Thanks for your response.

[Magnatron]

I wish I hadn’t seen these pictures. Sad, the ship our destroyer class is named after in such condition.

A more appropriate way would be this (Adams class USS Towers DDG-9) -- sending her to the deep blue, Davy Jones' locker. Scrapping seems undignified...

[Bull Snipe]

She was a Gearing class tin can. Sailed on her out of Newport RI

[Bull Snipe]

the fate of most ships, the bottom or the breakers.

[Little Ray]

The should see if they can replace the guns on the Zumwalts with the 155mm used in the latest version of the Army’s Paladin. Plenty of ammo for those at only a few hundred (thousand?) dollars a shot.
Oh, wait. They tried that and discarded it. Can’t have services actually using common weapons and ammo.

[Cuttnhorse]

Interesting that so many ships ended up in Philly for decomissioning...I reported to the Parker, DE 369 as QM and was informed that the ship was in the process of being decommissioned.
It was tied up in Bayonne, NJ and we off-loaded all the ordinance and was towed to the shipyard in Philly where we offloaded everything that wasn't nailed down.

The Thaddeous Parker, (I always just called it the Parker...for obvious reasons) was a fun little ship.