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Ivermectin for Preventing and Treating CoVID 19: Systemic Review
Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews ^ | August 4, 2021 | Maria Popp et al

Posted on 08/04/2021 4:43:38 PM PDT by gas_dr

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To: GraceG

Thanks for the link to Annie!


41 posted on 08/04/2021 6:22:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: week 71

But that aside, corona viruses evolve so quickly it seems likely they will evolve around Ivermectin as fast as it did around the vaccines


Vaccines are designed with a specific virus in mind. The action of Ivermectin is more general, so if it works it’s likely to work with the variants.

Given that the virus mutates quickly, it’s likely that a variant that evades vaccines appears among vaccinated people.


42 posted on 08/04/2021 6:22:23 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: gas_dr; silverleaf; All

The study is accurate by all medical standards. I though prefer the antidotal evidence for effectiveness. Oh, I’m also a pharmacist and frontline fill ivermectin and associated meds. I have first hand observations and follow up contact with patients that have been treated. For some, it doesn’t seem to matter and for others, it appears to help.... but was it the drug? There are too many mitigating factors to say ABSOLUTELY ivermectin made a difference. This person may have had a good outcome anyway w/o using the drug.
So, please, refrain from accusing someone of basically being a “¥^§$=/@#”. And also, the cost MAY be $10 if it is covered by your insurance. Cash is $300+ !!


43 posted on 08/04/2021 6:22:57 PM PDT by Texaspeptoman (Even cannibals... get fed up with people sometimes.)
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To: gas_dr

I respect Cochrane. They seem to be more comprehensive in their analysis. I wish they would analyze VAERS reports. All the paranoid control freaks, political hacks, antivaxxers, media dupes, people with money in the game, quack m.d.s, on both sides of this issue is starting to get to be a terminal mass with no light but lots of heat.


44 posted on 08/04/2021 6:26:01 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: gas_dr

The thing that worries me is the guy who gets up one morning with symptoms and then decides to self-medicate instead of seeking proper help.

If you take ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine to try and prevent infection and still get sick then you know it was not adequate in your case and you seek immediate professional attention.

It’s the delay that scares me... early treatment is important with covid.


45 posted on 08/04/2021 6:30:53 PM PDT by Bobalu (The higher the monkey climbs, the more you see his ass.)
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To: gas_dr

Meanwhile in other news:

Finnish Firm Scores US Patent for Nasal Spray Drug That Includes Hydroxychloroquine & Ivermectin

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3982046/posts

Stange if they use it in nasal spray , if it does not work against Covid-19.

The swamp is very afraid the truth will get a out.So they have to put out “uncertain” results like these.

Everyone knows it works, Dr, Pierre Kory designed the most effective proptocols on the use Of Ivermectin both and prophylaxis and early treatment for the Covid 19 infection. The inspiring fact also is that the therapy works against ALL VARIANTS of Covid 19. The vaccine does not.


46 posted on 08/04/2021 6:31:15 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Getready

All the paranoid control freaks, political hacks, antivaxxers, media dupes, people with money in the game, quack m.d.s, on both sides of this issue is starting to get to be a terminal mass with no light but lots of heat.


Dr Kory and others almost immediately had a successful treatment.

Very early it was clear that groups at higher risk have more stored iron. So it’s obvious to test something that removes iron from the body. Some claim Quercetin does so, and it was useful against a previous coronavirus. Recently, Italian researchers showed that it also works against the wuhan coronavirus.

The research with natural substances has been extremely slow. People with low vitamin K do worse, but there is very little research on that.


47 posted on 08/04/2021 6:33:11 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Texaspeptoman

That’s the issue. It may have some limited usefulness it may not and it will take several studies over time to tease it out. What is clear is that it is. it the magic bullet that some seem to think it is


48 posted on 08/04/2021 6:34:49 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Mom MD

There you go posting an obvious conclusion. Be prepared for the wrath of people calling you fake and a liar.


49 posted on 08/04/2021 6:37:11 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

The big problem with trying to study the effectiveness of any treatment for a weaponized virus that only has a 1:500 chance of death, for anyone under 75 and in reasonably good health, is that it is hard to determine if the treatment helped or if the patient would have recovered anyway.


50 posted on 08/04/2021 6:50:30 PM PDT by Left2Right (There is water at the bottom of the ocean)
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To: Bobalu

Context is everything.

My own anecdote from January (before the vax were available), I saw my doc for an unrelated matter, and we had a brief chat about what he would recommend if I were to come down with the ‘rona. At the time, I was careing for an elderly relative in an assisted living facility, and the virus was just tearing through the place.

“Well, my first recommendation would be one of the monoclonals, as soon as you have symptoms”.

Great! I thought, problem solved!

“But the problem is, there’s limited availability, and you don’t meet the current criteria anyway...”

Long story short, and after I asked, he agreed that if the “mabs” weren’t available, he’d give me a scrip for ivermectin, with the warning that while he didn’t think it would hurt, he personally didn’t think it would do any good, either.

The point of this long-winded post being, when someone asks “does this stuff work”, we have to understand “compared to what?” Compared to waiting at home until your O2 sat is 84? I’ll take my chances with something that is unproven, but with a great safety profile. Compared to Lilly’s or Regeneron’s mabs? Yeah, I’ll have those.


51 posted on 08/04/2021 6:59:01 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: TTFX

Indeed hope that is true. I am in the 50 and younger group and deem it foolish to take a non-properly vetted treatment. I have obtained ivermectin and HCQ from telemed doctors and that is a fine - trust in the meds more than the ‘vaccines’ - but ultimately my trust does not rest on medicine. Cheers FRiend


52 posted on 08/04/2021 6:59:58 PM PDT by week 71
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To: Left2Right

Its quite a mess isn’t it?


53 posted on 08/04/2021 7:24:00 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: ground_fog

How do you know that’s what you’re actually getting?


54 posted on 08/04/2021 7:43:06 PM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: gas_dr

‘Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19 outside of well‐designed randomized trials.’

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Replace the word ‘ivermectin’ with ‘any of the vaccines’ and you have an undeniable fact.


55 posted on 08/04/2021 7:43:33 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!Trump Trump announced the coming appointments of bar in Milian)
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To: phoneman08

*** On the other hand, at least the trolls sure to swarm your post won’t have worms! ***

Not sure if I had worms or not, but I took ivermectin as a prophylaxis for Covid and by the second dose, fatigue which has plagued me for months, and what I hoped was allergies, or a summer cold/cough was gone. My O² stats which had been 96-97 are now 99.

I did the 1st dose, 48 hrs later, 2nd dose, and once weekly afterwards thing. I have only done the 1st, and 2nd dose, and in five days will begin the once a week for 3 weeks. I have an autoimmune blood disorder, and choose to eschew the “vaccines” for what I consider a more conservative route.

I was nervous about taking it, but am glad I did. YMMV.


56 posted on 08/04/2021 7:51:28 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: sockmonkey

Thanks for your anecdotal report, sock.

Glad to hear you are doing/feeling much better.

It’s a shame this proven, effective drug is difficult to obtain, in some places.


57 posted on 08/04/2021 7:56:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Candor7
Stange if they use it in nasal spray , if it does not work against Covid-19.

Do you really think the US Patent and Trademark Office evaluates the medical efficacy of these applications?

58 posted on 08/04/2021 7:58:26 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: sockmonkey

Good to read. Any chance you may have had COVID and didn’t know it?


59 posted on 08/04/2021 8:25:21 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdz oncm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: sockmonkey

Weeeheeeeheeeeeheeee!
I’m taking it too.


60 posted on 08/04/2021 8:30:20 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope. )
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