Posted on 08/04/2021 4:43:38 PM PDT by gas_dr
The other good news for the Regeneron MABs is that they are approved for half-dose subcutaneous injection, not just administration in an infusion center. That seems like a big plus.
This Cochrane analysis is consistent with what you’ve been saying for quite a while now.
These studies always compare the effectiveness of a treatment against the standard of care. But what exactly IS the standard of care? Is there a true standard of care for a new, poorly understood disease about which the science is improving every day? I’m always confounded by the “standard of care” phrase.
Quite a number of parasitic infections can affect the lungs...
The paper may not say it (I’ve not read most of the paper, yet) but I believe a significant safety concern is that if Ivermectin is procured from back channels (”mostly from farm stores to hear it told here”), dosing may be wildly inappropriate.
Heck, how many improvements might be due to belief there will be an improvement, and how many might be that a parallel undiagnosed / unrecognized problem was beneficially treated?
Cochrane article posted here is the cream of the crop regarding level of evidence in medicine based on the Hierarchy of the Strength of the Evidence.
There are good and bad doctors on both sides of this issue. Bad one being those who refuse to consider HCQ, Ivermectin and the like. Also those pushing the zinc, z-paks and Vit-D which all have been mostly dis-proven.
Ivermectin still is possibly effective as the article mentions....await the large RCT. If it is, doubt that it’s the panacea.
Per the FDA: Anyone can report to VAERS. VAERS reports are usually submitted by health care providers, vaccine manufacturers, vaccine recipients (or their parents/guardians). I wonder if some of the reports are fake. I have no proof but just wondering.
*** Good to read. Any chance you may have had COVID and didn’t know it? ***
I suppose it is possible. And that possibility is why I decided to take the ivermectin. Allergies, summer cold, Covid?
I decided to err on the side of caution.
There’s an excellent little book still in print called “How to Lie with Statistics”.
One of the methods used described in the book, is to keep running studies until you get one that gives the results that you want.
Another method is setting up the study in such a way as to influence the outcome, kind of like how we read about polls that show something like Biden having a 60% approval rating. Well, conduct the poll in the right part of the country, and you could probably get those numbers, after you did as many polls as you needed to to finally get them.
“Studies show” means absolutely nothing.
Another method is setting up the study in such a way as to influence the outcome,
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And like they did with HCQ. They jacked up the doses to known unsafe levels, delayed the treatment till the person was too sick, Tested it without the zpak, zinc etc. Studies designed to fail. And there was the study that was entirely bogus — had to be retracted, but not before several trials were discontinued due to the conclusions of the bogus study.
Then we’re castigated for *not following the science*, being *science deniers*, *anti-vaxxers*, etc.
Even alleged “reputable” medical journals, like The Lancet and now NEJM are showing how unreliable they are.
Why should we trust them when they’ve proven themselves untrustworthy?
Trust but verify.
Trust the dealer but cut the cards.
Me - I pretend to trust them and give them a little test or two-hand them the rope and let them run with it.
And when they fail to be honest, I keep a poker face-but I know to never ever ever trust them.
Do you really think the US Patent and Trademark Office evaluates the medical efficacy of these applications?>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Do not put wordss in my mouth. You have a vivid imagination.
it is illegal by pharmaceutical regulation in many States to use these drugs in an off label application for Covid-19. It shows that the pUS patent office is ignoring one of the prime hurtles to obtaining a patent, the patented item or idea must NOT be illegal to recieve a patent.
As an extreme example, say I have invented an efficient, effortless way to genocide murder masses of human beings.The patent office would refuse the patent because genocide is illegal.
In this case the drugs are banned for off lable use in most Democrat controlled states. The patent office chose not to take notice of this fact in granting the patent, whichi is actually quite interesting. The Swamp missed a chance.Thats good news.
You are correct
And pray tell, what is ‘ the proper care’ currently being offered, outpatient, in the first 3 days after symptoms develop?
Throughout this pandemic, the standard of care offered when someone is first diagnosed is “ isolate at home, drink fluids, take tylenol, go to the hospital if you can’t breathe’
So how does prescribing 3 doses of ivermectin, or passing out ziverdo ( zinc, doxycycline, ivermection) kits, used in India Japan and Mexico ( of which I have several at home, onhand ) in an early pre- hospitalization outpatient protocol “ delay proper care”?
And if a patient is deteriorating and facing a vent, are you saying giving them ivermectin takes the place of “proper care” instead of adding to it?
Drs like this are why no family member of mine will submit themselves to a hospital that does not incorporate ivermectin in the treatment plan, as described by EVMS, Paul Marik protocol.
Vlad Zelenko has commented that the two greatest risk factors facing covid patients, are the govt they live under, and the doctor they choose.
You do realize that anecdotal reports indicate that ivermectin, if it is successful, starts to work fast, results show in 2-3 days and it can be prescribed and taken at home…right?
Yet home treatment for early diagnosis consists of….nothing.
Well, take tylenol maybe.
Wanna bet which has killed more people? Ivermectin, or tylenol?
Going back a few decades, the statement was :
"Statistics don't lie,
..statisticians do lie !"
Try the information here:
At the 17 minute mark, they discuss the use of prophylactic MAB ‘s as an outpatient therapy for at risk patients.
If you are concerned, it might be worth contacting your doctor to see if this is available in your area.
Of course, I am one of those who think the vaccine is the best deterrent, if you are not in an at risk group for that,
At some point, we each have to choose our own path.
You’re so full of crap it staggers the human mind.
The mg/kg of bodyweight dose for horses and humans is the same.
So use the plunger on the dispenser to go to your body weight, and you have the right dose.
You DO know that the discoverers of Ivermectin got the 2015 NOBEL PRIZE IN MEDICINE for it, and there have been over 3.7 billion doses given to humans, right?
And it’s off-patent and therefore can’t make Pfizer, Moderna, and Faux-Xi their billions, right?
A significant safety concern is rumor-mongers, CNN addicts, and BigPharma shills and whores such as yourself.
You’re a lying troll. Sod off Swampy.
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