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The Real Cost Of Green Steel
Watts Up With That ^
| 8/22/21
| Willis Eschenbach
Posted on 08/22/2021 3:33:04 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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More green BS! This was a response to a claim from Sweden (see https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/08/21/ssab-claims-carbon-free-steel-breakthrough/).
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posted on
08/22/2021 3:33:04 PM PDT
by
Renkluaf
To: Renkluaf
Sometimes you want a little carbon in the steel.
Like for building construction, or knives, or eek guns.
Yeah, the carbon is an alloy, but I’ll bet hydrogen-only smelting affects the carbon content of the steel.
Unintended consequences.
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posted on
08/22/2021 3:55:18 PM PDT
by
Scrambler Bob
(My /s is more true than your /science (or you might mean /seance))
To: Renkluaf
Using electricity to produce hydrogen is horribly inefficient. It takes considerably more energy to make hydrogen than you get from the hydrogen.
To: Renkluaf
the only real green steel, is Rearden Steel... 8^)
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:12:14 PM PDT
by
Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
To: technically right
There you go doing that math & physics thing ! No where did you take into account your feelings about the problem !
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:14:34 PM PDT
by
Reily
To: Renkluaf
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:25:33 PM PDT
by
sauropod
(Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
To: Chode
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:27:08 PM PDT
by
wally_bert
(I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
To: technically right
Before they used coke, charcoal was used. Hardwood charcoal preferred, and this would be a lot of wood.
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:28:44 PM PDT
by
Fraxinus
(My opinion, worth what you paid.)
To: Scrambler Bob
Yes. Carbon would have to be added.
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:30:51 PM PDT
by
MRadtke
(Light a candle or curse the darkness?)
To: technically right
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:36:02 PM PDT
by
AZJeep
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
To: Renkluaf; All
These morons should make their anti-coal case in China where they are building coal-fired power plants on a scale of one plant every WEEK.
The Stupid Party never bothers to publish this and show photographs of the air and rivers in India and China. Absolutely disgusting. These are the same jerks who believe windmills will power electric cars.
Common sense isn’t common anymore.
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posted on
08/22/2021 4:52:35 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
To: Renkluaf
It’s articles like these that warrants a daily visit to “Watts Up With That”.
To: Renkluaf
That’s what steel is - an alloy of IRON and (gasp) CARBON!!!
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:01:10 PM PDT
by
beethovenfan
(Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
To: technically right
Thats ok we will make it up in volume
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:16:09 PM PDT
by
al baby
(Hi Mom Hi Dad)
To: Cobra64
Actually what will happen is that the ChiComs will end up supplying the steel to everybody else. Unless the Indians can get cranked up.
To: Renkluaf
Ayn Rand had a damn good crystal ball.
To: wally_bert
oh yeah, It is lighter than traditional steel but stronger, and is to steel what steel was to iron. It is described as greenish-blue. Among its ingredients are iron and copper./Atlas Shrugged
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:43:46 PM PDT
by
Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
To: Captain7seas
At times I call her prophetic.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:46:41 PM PDT
by
wally_bert
(I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
To: Chode
But the guy from the state science institute refused to confirm Rearden Metal was good.
A bit I remember from the movie.
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:48:20 PM PDT
by
wally_bert
(I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
To: wally_bert
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posted on
08/22/2021 5:50:53 PM PDT
by
Chode
(there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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