Posted on 09/25/2021 5:55:09 PM PDT by NoLibZone
These studies became justification for action, regardless of how truthful they were. What we see is, the Federal system, news, elites of all stripes act as if the public has been influenced. When the public refuses to be influenced according to plan, mass punishment follows. Just like a authoritarian regime.
For your references:
Unpublished data from Stanley Milgram’s experiments cast doubt on his claims about obedience
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/rethinking-one-of-psychologys-most-infamous-experiments/384913/ (Atlantic, use alternate browsing)
Credibility and Incredulity in Milgram’s Obedience Experiments: A Reanalysis of an Unpublished Test
Its a command to the peons to stfu and do what we tell you.
Trust the quack science that backs the Left's position
and don't you dare bring up any sound studies or science
that contradicts the Left's position.
I would mostly trust the grunts at CDC and NIH. The grunts usually know what they are doing. The problem is that from the outset the career bureaucrats and politicians have been running this. Orange Man Bad + Fauci Failure (as he did with AIDS) + Media Fearporn = our current disaster.
The best way to frame our COVID response would be if you took your Ford in to the shop and the boardroom showed up in suits to fix it while they hid the guys with greasy hands in the closet. The “suits” are trying to fix this and failing. Bigly.
I’d imagine there’s a lot of truth in that.
It means they are gaining faith in scientism, their new religion.
The root word of science [and technology] is ‘knowledge’. The root word of Mystery is ‘knowledge covered’. The root word of Babylon is from Tower of Babel which was the ‘Tower of Knowledge’. The bible predicts a worldwide religion called ‘Mystery,Babylon’ in the end times. It is here, now, with its high priests and sacrifices and temples and rituals.
The point of the Galileo episode was the conflict between science and religion. Those opposing him were in no way making scientific arguments.
There's a reason many consider him the father of modern science.
Not much of a skeptic are you?
It means giving into whatever criminal leftist democrat think about on any given day.
The point of the Galileo episode was the conflict between science and religion. Those opposing him were in no way making scientific arguments.
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You are wrong!
It is presented that way nowadays.
But no, there were excellent scientific argument presented against Galileo.
Plus, Galileo communication skills were apparently lacking, to say that gently.
In Galileo times, the leading scientists of that time presented very good arguments against Galileo theories.
Most convincing:
The lack of observable star parallax was an excellent argument. It took several hundred years after Galileo to observe them.
The lack of understanding of the Airy patterns in scope was a second argument.
If stars are so far, we cannot observe their parallax, they have to be of immerse size size sine we can observe their size in the scope! Well, we cannot, but it appeared that way, because the optical theories were lacking.
Because of these arguments, most scientists of Galileo time did not believe in his theories. That’s a fact!
This is an excellent example to today’s science. 99% scientists opposed Galileo in his time. It too several discoveries afterwards to make his ideas even plausible.
Even if I “trust Faucci”?!, something could be discovered next years which explains everything and all his ideas will turned out wrong.
So it is the global warming science, which sits on even more doubtful theories than Faucci’s ideas.
I may have overstated it a little saying all the opposition was religious but it wasn't Brahe's or other astronomers' arguments used against him in his Inquisition. It was the claim of heresy.
Yes, science advances and we add to and refine what's known, but Galileo didn't live out his life under house arrest and wasn't forced to recant his theories due to scientific disagreements.
Well, actually you are wrong again.
Galileo was really punished for making caricature of the pope (Who was actually quite supportive to him before that). Apparently, Galileo was no a likable person. He had great skill of making enemies. They used religion to punish a person who was making fun of them and who they hated. Human. You do not make fun of somebody in power.
And, they actually used some scientific arguments in the trial.
From Wikipedia.
Views on Galileo’s scientific arguments
Observations that favored the heliocentric model over the geocentric model were lacking and not obvious at the time of Galileo’s trial in the early 1600s.[71] Direct evidence supporting heliocentrism had to wait for the emergence of Newtonian mechanics in the late 17th century, the observation of the stellar aberration of light by James Bradley in the 18th century, the analysis of orbital motions of binary stars by William Herschel in the 19th century, and the accurate measurement of the stellar parallax in the 19th century.[72][73] According to physicist Christopher Graney, Galileo’s own observations did not actually support the Copernican heliocentric view, but were more consistent with Tycho Brahe’s hybrid model where the Earth did not move, and everything else circled around it and the Sun.[74]
Are you now going to tell me that it was Brahe and the other astronomers who sentenced Galileo to house arrest for the rest of his life?
For scientific disagreements?
“One wonders if they experiments were created to justify foregone conclusions.”
Milgram thought that there was something wrong with the Germans, something uniquely evil that he did not expect to find in Americans.
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