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Police say bystanders "should've intervened" as woman was raped on Philadelphia train
CBS ^ | Oct 17, 2021 | Tre'Vaughn Howard

Posted on 10/17/2021 7:15:33 PM PDT by Conservat1

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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Police should have intervened during the riots...


61 posted on 10/17/2021 9:01:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Conservat1
Tell me the races of the perp and the victim and I'll tell you what should have been done.

Was the victim a liberal? After all, for liberals it's "just sex".

62 posted on 10/17/2021 9:05:58 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: caww
Rule is never intervene unless you’re ready to pay an attorney lots of money!

I violated that rule once, and was lucky. The woman I intervened for was not hurt, I was not hurt, and the maniac who held her on the hood of a car while screaming in her face was left unhurt but stranded on the beach. He said he would kill me, but missed his chance. I was happy with that result.

63 posted on 10/17/2021 9:13:22 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: Conservat1

Yeah, cause they are not allowed to.


64 posted on 10/17/2021 9:15:55 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Or get arrested in Loudoun County, VA, because your daughter was raped by a boy wearing a skirt in a school bathroom, and you show up at a school board meeting properly incensed.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-prosecutor-soros-mcauliffe


65 posted on 10/17/2021 9:17:56 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

I had to ride Philly trains and subways for several years and witnessed all sorts of strange happenings. All sorts of characters got on and off. Every rider tried not to even glance at another rider (I made that mistake once) because you never knew who was crazy.

On the other hand, once I thought our train was about to be robbed, but within minutes, I realized I’d misread the situation. Another time, I witnessed other riders’ misreading a situation. So, you learn not to trust your own eyes and ears sometimes.

My thought is that we really don’t have enough details yet to criticize the bystanders on this train. It all depends on one thing: Was the woman able to scream for help?

I mentioned above that I had SEPTA call police when I witnessed a woman being attacked on the street in broad daylight. But that woman was screaming; otherwise, I wouldn’t have noticed.

If the woman on the train was screaming, I don’t blame bystanders for not jumping in, but they could have called 911.

Did they hear “help” but were afraid to look? Were they oblivious on their cell phones and wearing headphones? Or, were the bystanders criminals themselves? Were they filming it?

Those are the questions.


66 posted on 10/17/2021 9:19:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Conservat1

PA is a shall-issue state for a CCW permit. I recommend arming yourself if you have to go into hazardous situations.


67 posted on 10/17/2021 9:20:33 PM PDT by Panzerfaust (The HK P7 .....it's what Jesus would carry.)
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To: Conservat1

Any woman who goes alone onto a train like that is an idiot


68 posted on 10/17/2021 9:32:26 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Conservat1

[[Police say bystanders “should’ve intervened” as woman was raped on Philadelphia train]]

Why? So the left can defund citizens too? - And now all of a sudden they care about innocent civilians? What about all the victims of blm and antifa during the riots when police stood by and did NOTHING?


69 posted on 10/17/2021 10:02:41 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Conservat1

The people on the train were trained to look out for white supremacist with red MAGA hats and white cops shooting unarmed black civilians.

The training was so good that this just didn’t register.


70 posted on 10/17/2021 10:21:05 PM PDT by PA-RIVER ( )
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To: Tired of Taxes

She was rendered unconscious by the nice young man.

As a white male, I can’t interact in such matters anymore.

Besides, I thought they did not want any policing anymore?


71 posted on 10/17/2021 10:45:06 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: Panzerfaust

Article 1, section 21 of the Constitution of Pennsylvania:

“The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.”

But the black community apparently does not want to be defended by police, and therefore presumably not by armed citizens.


72 posted on 10/17/2021 10:50:03 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: ltc8k6

I see... The news articles I read didn’t mention she was unconscious.

So, maybe the other riders walking on and off the train didn’t know she’d been rendered unconscious. They might’ve thought it was consensual. (Or maybe they didn’t care.)


73 posted on 10/17/2021 10:55:14 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

https://ujsportal.pacourts.us/Report/MdjCourtSummary?docketNumber=MJ-32133-CR-0000379-2021&dnh=bY0caPZazrI6baQh8vhIdA%3D%3D

“unconscious victim”


74 posted on 10/17/2021 11:26:00 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: Conservat1

I can say with 100% certainty I would not have stood by.


75 posted on 10/17/2021 11:27:36 PM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..)
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To: TChad

63 posts before one man is a man

What a pathetic forum


76 posted on 10/17/2021 11:30:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (Too many uninformed ..)
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To: ltc8k6

Thanks for the link. Wondering if she was unconscious when he first saw her and then he decided to take advantage...

If so, then the other riders might’ve assumed it was consensual and just tried to look the other way.


77 posted on 10/17/2021 11:54:51 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: ltc8k6
Please ignore my last post. She must've been rendered unconscious, as you said, because this article says she was conscious when he sat next to her:

https://6abc.com/septa-sex-assault-woman-raped-on-train-market-frankford-line-upper-darby-police/11130410/

surveillance video shows Ngoy sit next to the victim and attempt to touch her. The woman is seen attempting to push him away several times. The video then shows Ngoy push her down, rip her clothes off and sexually assault her . . . Police said a SEPTA employee noticed something was happening and notified police, who met the train at the 69th Street Transportation Center. . . the victim went into a state of shock. The assault went on for eight minutes.

78 posted on 10/18/2021 12:34:44 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: wardaddy

Pathetic? It’s f*cking heartbreaking. I’m beginning to believe there’s some truth to scientific studies showing significant testosterone loss in the American male.


79 posted on 10/18/2021 1:08:37 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Conservat1

The police and democrat taliban party government are the enemy, folks. Never trust them and never do what they say.


80 posted on 10/18/2021 3:17:49 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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