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NASA 'looks to the heavens' for help: Agency enlists 24 theologians to assess how the world would react to the discovery of alien life on distant planets and how it might change our perception of gods and creation
Daily Mail UK ^ | 12/24/2021 | By STACY LIBERATORE

Posted on 12/24/2021 2:23:46 PM PST by aimhigh

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To: aimhigh

Hopefully the aliens will be intelligent enough to know that no all humans are woke idiots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3n8McnmBGI


41 posted on 12/24/2021 3:07:33 PM PST by garjog ( )
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To: aimhigh

what a stupid question.

You don’t need any theologians.

God made the heavens and the earth.

I’d teach them about the gospel if they were self-aware and had developed a language.

Although, it would be interesting if they had their own version of Christianity, their own Savior.


42 posted on 12/24/2021 3:07:56 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: aimhigh

is nasa now awash in funds?

there is zero good that comes out of this.

why would be assisting/planning a psyop, we’re discussing this out in the open?


43 posted on 12/24/2021 3:10:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: aimhigh

Whether other life survived the fall, is debateable.

There is a book by a dutch writer that postulates other worlds never had the Fall - they were virtuous from their beginnings. They are all waiting for us to change our ways. Once that happens all will ascend.

“Operation Survival Earth” by Stefan Denaerde - still on Amazon


44 posted on 12/24/2021 3:14:29 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Makes sense when you consider a majority of the planet’s population wet their pants and quickly submitted to a fake pandemic without question.

I can only imagine how apoplectic and terrified the gullible among us will be if NASA announced an alien invasion was imminent.

Just curious, but do you think will we still need to practice social distancing and wear masks when the alien invasion starts? What about shoes? Can we still wear them indoors or do we have to remove them?


45 posted on 12/24/2021 3:19:11 PM PST by Qui is (Biden spews and Harris swallows. )
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To: Jim W N
This Daily Mail junk article is essentially hype for the James Webb telescope to be launched Christmas Day. According to the hype, the telescope will likely find signs of life on some exoplanets.

That's why the Daily Mail dredged up a seven-year-old news item about NASA funding some theologians to speculate on how a discovery of ETs would affect religions, especially Christianity. It's surprising that the article contained this quote:

Albert Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said in a 2008 interview when asked if there are such thing as aliens: 'The answer is no; that’s speculative.

'We have no reason to believe there is any other story out there. There is nothing in Scripture that says there can’t be some form of life somewhere. But what we are told is that the cosmos was created in order that on this planet Jesus Christ, in space and time and history, would come to save sinful humanity.'

46 posted on 12/24/2021 3:20:06 PM PST by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: momincombatboots

I agree

Chuck missler in his genesis commentary coveres

the math,
physics
and scriptural proof
that there is no life “ out there” .

Khouse.org

( answersingenesis.org also covers this )

Angels, fallen and rightouse and us, that’s it.

Richard Dawkins was a con man with his ‘ math’ , he started with a false presupposition.

GIGO.


47 posted on 12/24/2021 3:21:00 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: momincombatboots

Seriously? there are approximately 100 billion galaxies to date. There are over 300 million earth like planets in our own milky way galaxy. So God created millions and billions of planets, galaxies and no life, anywhere? We are the best He can do? A study of physics might give you a broader perspective.


48 posted on 12/24/2021 3:25:37 PM PST by M_Continuum
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To: Jim W N
Don’t we have enough aliens on this planet? Why go looking elsewhere for more of ‘em?

They vote democrat?

49 posted on 12/24/2021 3:29:04 PM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: Flick Lives
I’m less afraid of any alien visitors than I am of the intentions of our own world leaders.

↑↑↑This↑↑↑

50 posted on 12/24/2021 3:30:41 PM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: aimhigh

The alien spirit of Marshall Applewhite will meet with Earth Ambassador Elon Musk once the deep state pulls the trigger on the aliens ruse.


52 posted on 12/24/2021 3:38:30 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: aimhigh

God created other brings than what’s on earth. We typically call them angels. The description of angels in the Bible shows them to be both physical and extra dimensional. Also 1/3 of them rebelled against God. What we call aliens are most likely fallen angels.


53 posted on 12/24/2021 3:40:18 PM PST by D Rider ( )
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To: Jonty30

YUP; GOD created the entire UNIVERSE; if HE decided to create little green and purple people or critters out there I just have to accept HIS wisdom.


54 posted on 12/24/2021 3:40:44 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: ping jockey

be a real hoot if the little green men , after being taken to our leader ask,” Why do you not believe in God? We didn’t get prophets and messengers or even a visit from God himself and we ALL believe ,100% of us, It is so evident. Why are earth’s inhabitants so unfaithful.????”

would that be a blast.


The Ancient Guardian was standing in Rodney McKay's private lab located deep inside the great floating city of Atlantis. She and McKay were busy having a lively discussion about the origin and structure of the physical universe.

"Rodney, that is circular reasoning. Look, show me your Standard Model again. The gauge-symmetric coupled equation, the one that describes the dynamics of a physical system."

"Okay." Using swift finger motions McKay re-shuffled the diagrams on the imaging table.

"There, I give you the Standard Model of physics, Lagrangian style."

The female alien had her elbows propped on the glass table alongside him. "Nice. Now stop for a second. I still haven't mastered your mathematical notation yet, but just get up and take a step back with me." They did. She gestured at the table. "Just look at that, it's beauty, the compactness, the elegance."

Rodney nodded, "Yeah, there's a sublime beauty to it. It's marvelous how the motions and energies of the entire physical universe can all be represented by just five coupled sets of gauge invariant symmetric terms."

"Which set of terms is which? I'm still not fully familiar with your people's mathematical symbology."

"I know, it's a pain how mathematicians use so many different symbols all the time. Okay, let's see.." He bent over the table as she leaned in closely behind him to watch. "The Lagrangian symmetries in the Standard Model are described by five basic groups of terms, starting at the top: 1) the kinetic energies and self-interactions of the gauge bosons, 2) the kinetic energies and the electroweak interactions of the fermions - quarks and leptons, 3) the masses of the W+/-, Z, gamma, and Higgs particles and their couplings, 4) the interactions between quarks and gluons, and finally 5) the fermion masses and their couplings to the Higgs boson."

"So that means this constant here, excuse me." She was leaning in past him, her arm reaching over his shoulder to point at the table. "This one, I assume it is the coupling constant for electromagnetism?"

"Yep, that is the fine structure constant, dimensionless, the coupling constant for electromagnetism expressed in Planck units, about 1/137."

"Ah." She turned her head. "So tell me, Rodney, why is the fine structure constant that particular value? 1/137? Why not some other value?"

He shrugged. "Well, I dunno. It just is. It's a basic constant."

"And if it was slightly different?"

"Stellar fusion wouldn't work. If the value was a tiny bit smaller there would be no fusion, no stars, no suns. If it was a tiny bit larger stars would ignite too soon and burn so furiously that they would never grow in size to produce anything beyond helium so there would be no other physical elements. It would mess up everything."

"Basically the universe wouldn't work right."

"Yeah. It would be either perpetually dark or go up like a firecracker."

She leaned in over him again. "And this constant here?" She pointed.

He looked at it, then turned back over his shoulder to her. "The proton to electron mass ratio."

"And if that one was different?"

"You wouldn't get stable atoms because they'd either fly apart or collapse into neutrons, and the universe would be a goop of either all ions or all neutrons with no interesting macrostructure. Pretty boring either way."

She beamed at him. "Very good, Rodney. You just said something profound."

"Uh, I did?"

"Yes. If any of those constants were just slightly off the Universe would be, as you say, boring. And yet we know the Universe is emphatically not boring. It is full of all sorts of interesting things.."

He chuckled, "Like floating city-spaceships?"

".. like life."

He nodded, "Right, right, right. But I'm still not buying it. You're saying the universe is designed for life?"

"Rodney, isn't it obvious? Look around you. Look at your planet. Look at the physical processes that created it, and you. They are all determined by these five basic groups of terms that feature a dozen or so dimensionless constants that are completely arbitrary, any of which if even slightly different would have prevented the creation of an interesting universe, including one with a city-spaceship with Rodney McKay inside it."

"Oh bosh. I know there's a name for this.. trying to remember.. the Anthropic Principle. That explains it."

"Anthropic Principle? Let me look that up."

Her bright azure eyes rapidly scanned the reference material as the web pages scrolled past on a disc of glowing light that floated just above her extended arm. After a few seconds she said. "I see. Rodney, that's the same circular reasoning you used before."

"Hey, it's a perfectly valid objection to your claim. The universe is made just so, yes, in order for interesting structures to exist in it, yes, with a very unlikely set of initial conditions, yes. Why? Because it has to! Because otherwise the universe would be boring with no life, nothing interesting, and you and I would not be having this discussion."

"Rodney, my people realized very early that the universe is indeed designed to work the way it does. To be interesting, I mean. It's not random. There is so much evidence for it, it's overwhelming. It's embedded even in the equations themselves, how they work, and more importantly why they work."

55 posted on 12/24/2021 3:41:00 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
Although, it would be interesting if they had their own version of Christianity, their own Savior.

Agreed! The Bible is OUR book. It is OUR guide. It is designed for OUR needs.

I expect they would have their own Book with its teaching custom tailored to their species' needs.

56 posted on 12/24/2021 3:43:38 PM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: aimhigh

If God created more, he would have said so.


57 posted on 12/24/2021 3:44:56 PM PST by roving
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To: xkaydet65

Any alien civilization that encountered Earth would IMMEDIATELY QUARENTINE the whole planet; they would be smart enough to recognize mental illness when they saw it!


58 posted on 12/24/2021 3:45:49 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Gideon7

What makes things not boring is free will...

...but often it comes as one Hell of a price!


59 posted on 12/24/2021 3:50:59 PM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: D Rider

It might not be limited to that. God probably didn’t let you in on all of His plans and Creations. You are making assumptions way above your pay grade.


60 posted on 12/24/2021 3:55:38 PM PST by GingisK
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