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Trump claims ex-VP Mike Pence had power to overturn election
NY Daily News ^ | 01/31/2022 | Dave Goldiner

Posted on 01/31/2022 8:57:29 AM PST by sam_whiskey

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To: Political Junkie Too
The Pennsylvania State Supreme Court just declared unconstitutional a 2019 no-excuse mail-in ballot law, saying that it required a Constitutional amendment, and not a law, to make this change.

For reasons having nothing to do with the fraud claims from the 2020 election.

These aren't indictments, but they are a start.

Or charges or criminal complaints or arrests. Wake me when that starts happening.

141 posted on 01/31/2022 3:36:28 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
For reasons having nothing to do with the fraud claims from the 2020 election.

The challenge was brought in advance of the elections over fear of fraud enablement.

Chicken and egg.

-PJ

142 posted on 01/31/2022 3:39:57 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: DoodleDawg

The Electoral Count Act of 1887 specifies that the votes are counted by four tellers, two chosen by the majority and two chosen by the minority.

The Vice President opens the votes and hands them over to be counted.

HE DOES NOT COUNT THE VOTES.


143 posted on 01/31/2022 3:44:11 PM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Sacajaweau
And his job was to read them into the record...nothing more.

Ceremonial role. He could had passed it to Patrick Leahy, president pro tempore of the Senate.

144 posted on 01/31/2022 3:52:02 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Jim Noble
HE DOES NOT COUNT THE VOTES.

You know that...and I know that...and most of the country knows that...but it seems to be lost on a lot of people around here.

145 posted on 01/31/2022 3:59:06 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Sacajaweau

That post destroys your argument. If AZ, GA, MI, PA, and WI were objected to due to unconstitutional changes made to their election laws and refused Biden loses.

Am I the ONLY one that noticed the “insurrection “ started at the EXACT time the AZ electors were objected to,?

They were dismissed to debate the objection and vote on the electors and then it was none stop riots. Then they reconvened late at night and certified all electors. No one was allowed to object.

Coincidence?

Pences role was to oversee that process and he punted. No objections allowed. Unconstitutional


146 posted on 01/31/2022 4:03:20 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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To: DoodleDawg
You will, as always, play whatever card makes the least sense.

Sometimes you give me the impression that a lot of stuff doesn't make sense to you.

147 posted on 01/31/2022 4:20:22 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg
Your continued contempt for the Constitution is well known, as this thread shows.

It shows no such thing. What it shows is that I disagree with a lot of you making excuses for the milquetoast soy boy who wouldn't put up a fight.

But if you have one side saying the recounts and audits showed the election to be fair and above board, and the other side saying it's a crooked as the day is long then why should anyone take one side or the others without a chance for both side's evidence being heard in court and ruled on?

Well firstly, I regard the courts as primarily incompetent, and secondarily corrupt. Courts wouldn't hear cases. Given the massive amount of evidence demonstrating fraud, it should have been a slam dunk to get some favorable rulings in a competent/honest court system. The fact that this didn't happen just tells me the system is broken.

And yet with all that there have been no charges filed, no people arrested, no trials held, no convictions, no nothing.

So? The KKK used to get away with sh*t too, because the state apparatus was favorable to them. Now we have the state apparatus being favorable to these modern crooks, and so the courts are not a likely avenue for successful redress.

If the evidence is that massive then why not?

Covered above. Incompetent/corrupt. Same thing happened with the natural born citizen issue.

148 posted on 01/31/2022 4:26:51 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Fledermaus

https://ballotpedia.org/Counting_of_electoral_votes_(January_6-7,_2021)


149 posted on 01/31/2022 4:31:20 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Fledermaus

See my Post 75. I just posted the link


150 posted on 01/31/2022 4:32:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Fledermaus
Pences role was to oversee that process and he punted. No objections allowed. Unconstitutional.

The Arizona challenge was debated and voted on once Congress reconvened, as was a challenge to the Pennsylvania vote. Several other challenges failed because no Senator agreed to sign on to the challenge.

151 posted on 02/01/2022 4:16:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp

I hear you! However, I believe the source of the nihilism we see today is from the Philosophy Depts. of our universities. For many decades, they have taught moral relativism, subjectivism and that knowledge is unknowable, thus there is no right or wrong. This is where it all starts: with ideas. Ideas are what move history. The propagandists and anti-intellectual forces were taught to think or not think in school/college.


152 posted on 02/01/2022 2:02:01 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the gov out of medicine, education and forests!)
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To: semimojo

Do you have a source for this? I don’t believe it.


153 posted on 02/01/2022 7:57:34 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
Do you have a source for this? I don’t believe it.

www.donaldjtrump.com

154 posted on 02/01/2022 8:25:58 PM PST by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Ok. Well. Too bad pence didn’t exercise that right.


155 posted on 02/01/2022 8:28:15 PM PST by stanne
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