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Mariupol (What Ukrainian victory looks like)
Twitter ^ | March 19th, 2022 | Mike Eckel via Twitter

Posted on 03/19/2022 1:46:04 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: canuck_conservative

A lot of human scum here.


41 posted on 03/19/2022 2:19:38 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: free_life
What Russian evil looks like.

Yup, that would have been my first comment. But not the other poster's.

42 posted on 03/19/2022 2:20:13 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: mac_truck

No. Time for the invader to go home.


43 posted on 03/19/2022 2:20:30 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: canuck_conservative

Look at the voting records for west, central, and Southern Ukraine. Yanukovich was overwhelmingly elected on a pro-Russian platform until the CIA color revolution. My central Ukrainian family members also told me.


44 posted on 03/19/2022 2:21:01 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: canuck_conservative

Well it’s obvious you’re one who takes sides in a war that should be none of our business - rather Europes problem.


45 posted on 03/19/2022 2:21:18 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: pierrem15

I feel bad for Poland. They have enemies on both sides of them.


46 posted on 03/19/2022 2:21:30 PM PDT by McGruff (It's America First, stupid.)
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To: canuck_conservative
There you go with your Russian propaganda again


47 posted on 03/19/2022 2:21:32 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Dr. Franklin

I don’t see a lot of cratering

One explanation: artillery fused to air burst and cluster munitions leave little or no craters. Russians love their nasty cluster munitions.


48 posted on 03/19/2022 2:22:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: canuck_conservative

You have appointed yourself as a thread monitor now?


49 posted on 03/19/2022 2:22:53 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Mariner
The US is not the only country that can conduct out of area operations. If Poland is attacked as a consequence, it's still NATO territory, just like the US could invoke Article V to get NATO AWACS over the US after 9/11, even though the Europeans could have said it was just blowback for our ME operations.

Poland has its own interests to defend, and there's now an internal political dynamic developing where both the government and the opposition are beginning to accuse each other of being weak on Russia.

Poland is already pushing a NATO "peacekeeping" mission. Plus the miserable performance of the Russian army has reduced fear of a Russian invasion while movement of a lot of American and German air defense to Poland and elsewhere has reduced the threat of air attack.

What's ludicrous is the notion that none of the Eastern NATO members somehow don't have their own interests and perceptions of how to secure them and that their policies can simply be dictated by Washington.

You know, just like the Balkans in 1914, where no one thought the Serbs would be crazy enough to assassinate the Austrian Archduke.

Which is why the mindless passivity of the "Biden" regime is far more dangerous than it looks.

50 posted on 03/19/2022 2:23:35 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: canuck_conservative

Ukraine has been shelling their own citizens for 8 years now. Where’s your outrage about that?


51 posted on 03/19/2022 2:23:42 PM PDT by McGruff (It's America First, stupid.)
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To: caww

Innocent people being attacked by a monster is everyone’s business

I’ll always be there supporting the underdog ... you can count on that buddy


52 posted on 03/19/2022 2:24:01 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Mariner

Meant to ping you to post #42.


53 posted on 03/19/2022 2:24:34 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: pierrem15

“They won’t surrender. I expect Mariupol to be taken by the Russians in the next day or two, which means it’s taken the Russians 3 1/2 weeks to reduce a city of a few hundred thousand close to Crimea and the eastern border and cut off by sea on the Sea of Azov.”

Good points. The important thing to note is that Russia has only succeeded in Mariupol because they can resupply by sea.

The sieges of Kiev, Kharkiv, and the other northern towns have failed because the Russians have no way to keep enough supplies flowing to maintain a siege. Trucks are too vulnerable when the each Ukrainian grunt carries a missile that can obliterate them at 2 miles distance.


54 posted on 03/19/2022 2:27:46 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: pierrem15

“The Russians seem to have pulled some forces from the west of Kherson to assist at Mariupol”

The Russian advance from Kherson to seize Mykolaiv (the path across the Bug River to Odessa) hit a serious setback, with the lead BTG rendered combat ineffective from losses. Russian/Soviet doctrine is to not reinforce failure. Mariupol is a very high priority for the Russians (control of the Azov Sea coast, its offshore hydrocarbon resources, and a land bridge linking Crimea to Russia). They seriously want to occupy that before there is any ceasefire/peace deals.

Mariupol may have become an urgent priority for Russia, if they share the assessment that their overall offensive is approaching its culmination, and they will have little time left for gains. They may have to write off hopes of seizing Odessa, and cutting Ukraine off from the Black Sea.


55 posted on 03/19/2022 2:27:55 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: canuck_conservative

John Mearsheimer - probably the leading geopolitical scholar in the US today - in 2015:

“The West is leading Ukraine down the primrose path and the end result is that Ukraine is going to get wrecked .... What we’re doing is in fact encouraging that outcome.”

CIA director Bill Burns in 2008:
“Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for [Russia]” and “I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests”

Sir Roderic Lyne, former British ambassador to Russia, warned a year ago that “[pushing] Ukraine into NATO [...] is stupid on every level.” He adds “if you want to start a war with Russia, that’s the best way of doing it.”

Ted Galen Carpenter, Cato Institute’s senior fellow for defense and foreign policy studies, wrote in a 1994 book that NATO expansion “would constitute a needless provocation of Russia.”

Today he adds “we are now paying the price for the US’s arrogance”.


56 posted on 03/19/2022 2:30:00 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: canuck_conservative

“Innocent people being attacked by a monster is everyone’s business”

Bullshit.

The Great Neocon Lie.


57 posted on 03/19/2022 2:31:29 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

not a lie

Putin is a monster, stop denying it


58 posted on 03/19/2022 2:33:34 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative
Innocent people being attacked by a monster is everyone’s business...


59 posted on 03/19/2022 2:34:06 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: caww

I was shocked to read this the other day.

Visiting Kyiv in early 2008, then-President George W. Bush told Ukrainian leader Viktor Yushchenko that it was time that the Eastern European nation join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, a military alliance between the United States and European nations meant to serve as a bulwark against the Soviet Union and, after communism’s collapse, Russia.

“Helping Ukraine move toward a NATO membership,” Bush said, “is in the interest of every member in the alliance and will help advance security and freedom in this region and around the world.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-ukraines-hope-of-nato-membership-drives-conflict-with-russia-024207209.html

And I thought he was searching for Osama Ben Hiden all this time.


60 posted on 03/19/2022 2:34:37 PM PDT by McGruff (It's America First, stupid.)
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