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Russian tank ‘opens fire on elderly care home killing 56 & taking 15 hostage’ in ‘cynical & deliberate’ attack
The Sun ^ | 3-20-22 | Anthony Blair

Posted on 03/20/2022 3:25:00 PM PDT by Orlando

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To: buwaya

The vast majority of the people in the U.S. knew nothing about the laptop at all and most of those who did had been told by their media that something had come up, but needed that it was nothing they should see, since is was a “Russian creation to help Trump This quick, quick, quick censorship went along with the whopper of an assertion that Putin wanted Trump to win. All common sense and logic shouted that Putin would have wanted Hillary, but the sheeple long since left common sense along the side of the road.


101 posted on 03/20/2022 10:19:21 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now ( )
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now

Be it as it may, my point was that the Daily Mail certainly isnt “enemedia”, as it did carry all these stories at the time, as well as the NY Post.


102 posted on 03/20/2022 10:45:18 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Orlando

Russia and Russians will be hated as criminals for decades to come after this kind of crap.


103 posted on 03/21/2022 3:38:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 )
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To: PAR35

IF true, may be unprovoked, may have been a sniper or artillery spotter there. Anyone who swallows any of the propaganda from either side is a fool. So you don’t have to ask. “Are you calling me a fool?” Are you swallowing this?


Why does it have to be lies and propaganda?
Because you believe its is too horrific?
Because you believe Spetsnaz troops, trained in terror tactics, or Chechens are gentle and respectful of civilians?


104 posted on 03/21/2022 4:33:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Because the Ukrainians have released similarly inflammatory statements before and they have had to walk them back. See the “Russians are shooting at an active nuclear reactor and are going to kill us all” story they released, then had to walk back to use one infamous example.


105 posted on 03/21/2022 4:39:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Flick Lives

State Service of Special Communications = Ministry of Truth


106 posted on 03/21/2022 4:44:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (We are living in 1984. We have always been living in 1984.)
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To: PIF
Why does it have to be lies and propaganda?

It doesn't have to be. If you read my post, you would see that I indicated that it could be true. But absent real evidence, I'll assume for now that both sides are lying.

107 posted on 03/21/2022 5:42:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I can’t recall seeing such a flood of information as has been coming from Ukraine as in this war. It is like the war effort takes a back seat to the propaganda effort. Ukrainians valiantly kill brutal Russians and brutal Russians bomb hospitals when they are deserting their own army.

For the most part, the Russians are doing what armies do in time of war - shut up and execute the strategy.


108 posted on 03/21/2022 5:46:22 AM PDT by anton
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To: Spktyr

Because the Ukrainians have released similarly inflammatory statements before

Just because an “inflammatory” statement is released by one party does not make it propaganda; it could well be a report made in error, but believed to be true at that moment.

Propaganda is a repeated unwavering theme, including repeatedly creating fallacious and obvious myths, not a one time report.


109 posted on 03/21/2022 5:49:02 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: anton

Well, the Ukrainians obviously care more about land than civilian lives.


110 posted on 03/21/2022 5:49:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PIF

If propaganda is a repeated unwavering theme, then the Ukranians are guilty of it. The ‘nuclear reactor attack’ is but one of *many* stories that the Ukranians have launched then have had to walk back. Many of which didn’t make any sense at the time they released them.

At this point, until proven otherwise, I’m going to go with “a pox on both their houses.”


111 posted on 03/21/2022 6:34:31 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Orlando

Kindergarten attack fake.
Maternity hospital attack fake.
Now a fake old folks home attack.


112 posted on 03/21/2022 6:58:13 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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