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Ending WFH is 'RACIST'! Apple staff tell CEO Tim Cook that forcing them back to the office will make tech firm 'younger, whiter and more male-dominated'
Daily Mail ^ | 4.30.2022 | Christina Coulter

Posted on 04/30/2022 5:04:00 PM PDT by libh8er

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To: It Aint Easy

I think “hybrid” is the optimum solution. Currently I have 9 direct reports: 4 of them report to the office one or two days a week by choice; I do too. The remaining 5 have opted to remain at home—3 are medically housebound or nearly so and have reasonable accommodations to stay remote, one is about to retire, and one is in another city 1000 miles away anyway.

Hybrid is good. Going into the office 1-2 times a week breaks up the monotony of living in a virtual world of Zoom/TEAMS meetings. It’s been great to have meetings and one-on-ones with people in person again.

And working from home is peaceful (for most) and productive and less tiring than commuting.

Hybrid work is excellent due to balance and moderation.


61 posted on 05/01/2022 12:34:22 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: cpdiii

All my three young adult sons had NEVER worked in an office due to Covid (all started their careers during the past 2 years—one a bit earlier) and they’ve LONGED to be in an office.

My 2nd son is now going to the office 2-3 times a week and he’s thrilled; he was tired of being on TEAMS and ZOOM meetings and never seeing clients or coworkers in person. It’s not good for humans to be 100% virtual.

My 1st and 3rd sons are still remote.


62 posted on 05/01/2022 12:39:51 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys; cpdiii
My 2nd son is now going to the office 2-3 times a week and he’s thrilled; he was tired of being on TEAMS and ZOOM meetings and never seeing clients or coworkers in person. It’s not good for humans to be 100% virtual.

Seconded. The information you can exchange with an in-person meeting can't be duplicated in a digital environment or even in a phone call. Phone call, chat, text, e-mail, Zoom, etc. -- all of those are intentional, involve effort made on one side to reach out, are too narrow, too flat, devoid of dimension. You can run into someone in a hallway, a chance meeting of equals, exchange some scuttlebutt not related to a specific task or work project, but it generates context and connectivity. Hybrid setup is ideal to have the best of the remote and in-person worlds.

63 posted on 05/01/2022 1:01:28 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: libh8er

So staying home will make you more black, ethnic, female transgender, gay and lesbian safe


64 posted on 05/01/2022 4:33:10 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
A coworker's son just relocated to the Bay area because his girlfriend got hired by Apple, some nice fat salary, which they will need just to find housing. Personally, I'd look for a KOA and live in a motor home, I think Apple has a shuttle service to and from.

65 posted on 05/01/2022 7:52:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Codeflier
My biggest client just had three top people in the department that manages my projects leave the company. They all left in the aftermath of the company’s mandatory two-days-in-the-office-per-week schedule, and they moved to competitors that will allow them to work from home most of the time.

In this particular case the employer was being totally ludicrous — because they imposed the RTO mandate without exceptions even though this department had been operating mostly remotely even before COVID.

66 posted on 05/01/2022 1:23:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: libh8er

The response from the company should quote Charles DeGaulle. “The graveyard is full of indispensable men.”


67 posted on 05/01/2022 1:31:50 PM PDT by georgecorgi
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To: Alberta's Child

Top people that can’t be bothered to come into the office only two days a week? Doesn’t sound like top people to me. I say good riddance.


68 posted on 05/01/2022 7:04:36 PM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I want my spot in the NBA! Talk about some obvious racism in action!


69 posted on 05/01/2022 9:37:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: libh8er

Working in offices is racist??!!
Let me try to figure out their twisted logic.
Which made up words does it involve ?
Colonialism, patriarchy, privilege, ?


70 posted on 05/01/2022 9:47:01 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden’s picture on a milk carton?)
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To: Codeflier
They're not lazy people. They're intelligent and efficient people. Importantly, they work for clients all over the U.S. and Canada.

As the boss of one of them told me after I learned of the news (and this boss is 100% opposed to the mandatory office hours himself): "How stupid was it to make John X come into the office all day on Tuesday just because the company is adamant about it ... while John then sits there at his desk that day and spends most of his time on video conference calls with clients all over the country that he could have "met" from anywhere."

Something else to consider is that this company destroyed its credibility (in my eyes) way back in the spring of 2020 when they imposed a draconian lockdown on its offices and staff in the first place. I ended up having the best year my company ever had because this client refused to let me interact with their staff for field assignments. I ended up doing 100% of the work on those assignments with my own staff instead of splitting the effort with them as the prime contractor.

71 posted on 05/02/2022 5:46:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I didn’t say they were lazy. I said that if they can’t be bothered to come in to the office a mere two days a week, I don’t think they are committed to my company at all and the company would be better off long term without them.

Regarding the refusal to come on site with you on projects - that was stupid on the company’s part for sure.


72 posted on 05/02/2022 6:43:06 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Excellent analogy.


73 posted on 05/04/2022 2:33:00 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Nifster; EEGator

Cali is at-will. However, Cali labor law is pro-worker.


74 posted on 06/02/2022 1:28:37 PM PDT by bobcat62
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