Because their current Prime Minister is a hottie. She probably promised Biden two free sniffs.
Posted on 05/17/2022 4:39:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
Because nuclear war is a joke to these lunatics.
Pat, we actually defend more places than Canada and Alaska, which are the two comparisons mentioned in your article.
Nonetheless, Pat’s Isolationism is a valid discussion in this case.
Why join NATO? Brandon and the congress gave $80 bln in military equipment to the Taliban and $40bln to Ukraine.
Neither of them are in NATO. Why pay dues?
“why would the United States consent to go to war with Russia”
We are already at war with Russia, look at the Billions of dollars we have already spent on Ukraine since Feb.
> Biden is offering Helsinki the kind of war guarantee Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain gave to Poland in the spring of 1939... <
Buchanan tipped his hand here. He’s still upset that Britain had the nerve to object to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.
Buchanan does make some good points in this article. And I used to be a big fan of his. But now I wonder what his core values really are.
Isn’t it time the EU steps up and pays for its own defense?
US taxpayers are tired of carrying the load for the rest of the western world.
Good old Pat - he never could see a reason to go to any war. If he’d been born a few years earlier, he would have been the one on the America First stage, telling us that the Nais and the Japanese “were no threat to us”.
He was too young for Korea and too old for Vietnam, so I can’t call him a draft-dodger - but even a codger like him should remember that preventing tyrants from attacking whomever they please, is the way to prevent the next World War.
American isolationists need not to worry.
Turkey has killed the NATO bid with what seem to be legitimate reason
Buchanan tipped his hand here. He’s still upset that Britain had the nerve to object to Hitler’s invasion of Poland.
Excellent observation!
Regards,
Maybe the other 29 members of NATO should contemplate expelling Turkey from NATO.
Regards,
The reason for that is that NATO so wildly overmatched any potential European foe, that no such for is going to attack NATO. It's a way to keep peace, not a way to go to war. The key is to not admit only those countries sufficiently stable politically that they won't end up dragging you into a war. Finland and Sweden fit that perfectly.
Distributed architecture.
Think of it this way: suppose Russia decided to go for Alaska. In NATO.
Not only would it have to consider American retaliation from the east, theres a whole arsenal on its western flanks under different command chains, any of which could launch attacks against Moscow and Kaliningrad in no time if Article 5 is upheld.
It couldn’t begin to predict where it’d be hit from, and how, and by whom.
Without America in NATO, Europe would be more vulnerable but you’d also have the problem that many surrender monkeys in Washington would sue for peace rather than go for an all out war. What can America hit Russia with, other than nukes?
In fact Russia would probably be allowed to keep Alaska on the basis it’s a rotten option but still preferable to MAD.
That’s the value of NATO. With it, Russia can’t hit America with anything without propelling itself into a non-nuclear war on two fronts not one. Without it, America just has to rely on Russia being too scared of American escalating to ICBMs to risk it.
Problem is, Russia is no more scared of America using its strategic nukes than Europe is scared of Russia using theirs. MAD is MAD. We all know it. No side wants to make the first strategic nuclear strike.
As a Russian military boffin pointed out on their own TV, their over-the-top nuclear sabre rattling is actually provoking mirth, not fear, in Europe now. Tactical nukes maybe, but strategic big boys? Nah.
Turkey has what seem legitimate grievances with Sweden an Finland. Both apparently are harboring fugitives who were part of the attempted coup. They will not extradite them back to turkey for trial.
So, you want in NATO, give up the bad guys is the message
um... for the same reason we would go to war if Russia attacked England!
SO THEY WONT ATTACK!
it’s a deterrent !
Because their current Prime Minister is a hottie. She probably promised Biden two free sniffs.
The only effect of Finland joining NATO is the positioning of battlefield nukes right across their border with Russia.
Otherwise, Finland was already a defacto NATO member (i.e., we’ll fight there if they’re invaded), and Russia understood it, which is why neither Russia nor the Soviet Union ever bothered with Finland after WW2.
Bottom line - non-issue.
NATO doesn’t have a mechanism to expel members, and it’s charter requires unanimous votes so you couldn’t even add such a provision unless Turkey agreed.
Pat wrote an extensive book on WW2 questioning our involvment. Core values? His VP selection for the Reform Party. The Michael Savage without the frothy mouth.
Yeah, didn't think so - but they could still take a vote. I'm sure that Turkey would be chagrined by a 29-to-1 vote in favor of expelling it!
Regards,
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