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Removal of Soviet monuments is controversial
Get To Text ^ | 6 August 2022 | Oliver Adey

Posted on 08/13/2022 5:11:40 PM PDT by MercyFlush

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To: JonPreston

When did Neocons join with the left in pulling down monuments?

You don't have to be a leftist or a neocon to believe that Estonian statues should be of prominent Estonians, not a foreign conqueror. That's like saying Americans should have statues of King George III.

61 posted on 08/13/2022 9:35:26 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: JonPreston
Jon, the Neo Cons, the Globalists, and the Left are kissing cousins. Because they all have the same goal. The destruction of Constitutional Government in the United States and One World Government. They all have the same goal. They just differ on how to get achieve that goal.
62 posted on 08/13/2022 9:42:46 PM PDT by sport
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To: dynachrome

The Russians bought the design for the T-34 from American car designer Walter Christie who first tried to sell it to the US Army.

Unfortunately the Army wasn’t interested.


63 posted on 08/13/2022 11:38:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

I think he designed the suspension system, not the actual tank.


64 posted on 08/14/2022 3:40:23 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: aquila48
Columbus, Jefferson,

Comparing the the re-conquering of the Captive Nations by the Soviets to Columbus and Jefferson is idiotic.

65 posted on 08/14/2022 4:52:06 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: MacNaughton; aquila48

You two are conflating Confederate heroes with scum like Lenin, Stalin, and Soviet invaders/occupiers.

There is no comparison.


66 posted on 08/14/2022 5:51:57 AM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MacNaughton
What about all of the Confederate monuments/memorials taken down in the U.S. over the last 3 years?

For every Confederate monument/memorial taken down in the U.S. over the last 3 years the Army lost 1,000 recruits.

67 posted on 08/14/2022 5:53:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

and if Nikki Haley is ever on the ticket she will get exactly ZERO electoral votes in the south ...


68 posted on 08/14/2022 6:09:09 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: central_va

There is no doubt that Biden’s woke military has alienated many young people from enlisting. I also attribute his attrocious COVID policies to the shortfall. And I am still angry about him renaming Army bases like Bragg, Benning, etc. My father was a Maine Yankee who enlisted during the Korean War and served his time in the Airborne at Benning. I had no problem with military posts named after Confederates.


69 posted on 08/14/2022 6:11:34 AM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MercyFlush; MacNaughton

“There is no comparison.”

That’s right... Unless you’re black or Indian.

If history is worth preserving, you have to preserve the good the bad and the ugly, not just the stuff that you today with your own prejudices find distasteful.


70 posted on 08/14/2022 8:00:46 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: MercyFlush

They are such good constant reminders that freedom isn’t free nor fighting for it occassional, to remove them is to push ignorance and repeat.

Like removing justice tanney from annapolis....tragic loss of education for every adult and child passing by daily or occassionally.


71 posted on 08/14/2022 8:09:59 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: sport

Hey Sport,

“whatever it takes, by any means necessary”

And if at first you don’t succeed...


72 posted on 08/14/2022 8:44:33 AM PDT by katie didit
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To: vladimir998

Lots of sentimental Euro nazi think there. You clowns always find a way to excuse nazis. Funny how that works. I think we all know the reason why.


73 posted on 08/14/2022 10:18:58 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

“Lots of sentimental Euro nazi think there.”

Completely false.

1) I am not sentimental about these things.
2) I am not European.
3) I am not a Nazi.
4) When I was young I got to know numerous people who had fled communist countries - including people who fled the USSR (Russia, Ukraine, Byelorussia, and Karelia), Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Prussia, Slovakia, Czechia, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, Vietnam, China, Laos, Cambodia and Cuba in order to get away from the Soviets or other communists. Some of those people married German soldiers to get away, or worked with smugglers, or joined forces with the Nazis or their allies in order to keep their countries free of the communists or to escape communist forces when there was no other hope. Back in the day, I met quite a few colorful characters at the conferences for the AABS (the Association for the Advancement of Baltic Studies). I knew quite a few Ukrainians who escaped the USSR - including one family who still had the boots of their father who had escaped from Siberia and walked all the way to Ukraine to retrieve his family and then walked all the way to Germany as the Germans were retreating in order to escape the Soviets.

And everything I said is STILL TRUE. We would have joined forces with the Nazis in a heartbeat in 1940 if the Soviets had some how invaded and occupied the U.S.A. We would do it to free our country and because we would be desperate. After all we allied ourselves with communist mass murderers (the USSR) to fight the Nazis so we would have done the opposite if it was warranted.

“You clowns always find a way to excuse nazis.”

I have never excused them. I just don’t assume that all people who sided with them were genuinely Nazis since they were not Germans, were not necessarily anti-semitic and always had their own agendas. Some of those same Nazi allies BECAME OUR ALLIES AFTER WWII. Ever hear of Operation Anyface? You might want to look it up.

“Funny how that works. I think we all know the reason why.”

What we know is that you’re out of your league when it comes to making anything approaching a logical or historically grounded argument. So what do you do? You throw around innuendos about Nazism. That’s a clear sign of intellectual and moral cowardice. And that sign is stamped all over your posts.


74 posted on 08/14/2022 10:56:15 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
I knew quite a few Ukrainians who escaped the USSR - including one family who still had the boots of their father who had escaped from Siberia and walked all the way to Ukraine to retrieve his family and then walked all the way to Germany as the Germans were retreating in order to escape the Soviets.


75 posted on 08/14/2022 11:14:24 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: dfwgator

Hmmmm...isn’t that supposed to be a depiction of Lenin after overeating on Serbian bean-soup?

It is really delicious, no doubt - but it has to be made with copious amounts of onions and garlic, mind you ;-)


76 posted on 08/14/2022 1:46:14 PM PDT by Menes
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To: aquila48

Sorry, no. Screw Russia. If they love their monuments so much then they should bring them home along with all of their citizen-colonists.


77 posted on 08/14/2022 4:14:51 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush

What about the Indians and the Blacks here. should they have the right to topple monuments they don’t like?

And southerners, should they be allowed to topple statues of Lincoln and Grant?

I don’t know what your likes and dislikes are, but should you be allowed to get together with other people that think like you and topple the statues your group finds offensive?

Do you realize how myopic you are?


78 posted on 08/14/2022 5:07:33 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: escapefromboston

So, it was wrong to remove the swastika from the top of the German Chancellery?


79 posted on 08/14/2022 5:26:05 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dfwgator

Nice paint job!


80 posted on 08/14/2022 5:30:39 PM PDT by GingisK
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