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'RIP, Antonovsky Bridge!' Zelensky obliterates Russian ammo trucks in new missile strikes
Express UK ^ | Mon, Aug 22, | By CIARAN MCGRATH

Posted on 08/22/2022 8:40:33 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: achilles2000

The 15,000 on the wrong side of the bridge have to go somewhere, but my money is on back to Russia for a prisoner swap.

There are 4 more bridges between there and Odessa, and odds are nearing zero they will cross even one of them.


61 posted on 08/22/2022 12:13:34 PM PDT by UNGN
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To: PIF

“OK! So the Ukrainians are too stupid, too backward, to track assets and time their arrival at a specific point. Only Americans are that smart. I get it now.”

Quit being an idiot. It has nothing to do with that. Ukrainians would not have the technical capability because they are American missiles and I seriously doubt they can interface with them in-flight. The missiles are flying supersonic, to get them to land at exactly the time you want them to while a target is moving at a variable speed requires a technical capability that Ukraine simply does not have, unless we gave it to them - or - unless we actually are controlling them. The simple solution is the latter.


62 posted on 08/22/2022 12:16:30 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Round Earther
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63 posted on 08/22/2022 12:17:40 PM PDT by TECTopcat
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To: ansel12

Fake photo. Too bad.


64 posted on 08/22/2022 12:22:14 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: RFEngineer

OK you win


65 posted on 08/22/2022 12:39:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: dennisw; All

2 Minute Video: Antonovsky Bridge hit again tonight by HIMARS. Looks like Ukraine is now targeting both ends of the bridge. Russian air defense doesn’t work.

https://twitter.com/primrosestjames/status/1561797828413952003


66 posted on 08/22/2022 12:48:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

According to another video from someone who retweeted that video, it was filmed on 8-14-22. Need more proof.


67 posted on 08/22/2022 1:51:32 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: marcusmaximus

We need some fresh daylight photos to see how bad this Antonovsky Bridge looks. On Tweet one said that no civilian traffic has been allowed for 1.5 months on the Antonovsky Bridge.


68 posted on 08/22/2022 2:00:25 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: RFEngineer; PIF

And yes, the U.S. and other nations have been providing Ukraine with coordinates and other information. Along with drones and other means in Ukraine, they’re doing better.


69 posted on 08/22/2022 2:17:54 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: RFEngineer
A Ukrainian in their house could not provide real-time terminal target guidance to an inflight HIMARS missile

No need for any real time terminal guidance other than what is provided by the existing HIMARS guidance system.

The bridge has been hit before and is a fixed target with a known position. Knowing when a convoy of 10 trucks will be in the strike zone just requires a little calculation of their speed as observed locally and the time of flight for the rocket.

Why does that seem so unlikely?

Here is a video apparently of vehicles riding across on the replacement ferry next to the bridge. Pretty good intelligence data, probably better than what you can get from a satellite and sigint. And this is the publicly posted video.

70 posted on 08/22/2022 2:59:13 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: RFEngineer
while a target is moving at a variable speed

Tne bridge is moving in several coordinate systems, but its location is pretty much fixed in terms of the incoming HIMARS missile. That's why earlier launches have hit the bridge.

If you knew that your missile barrage would hit the bridge at a certain time, which isn't hard to calculate, that is sufficient to damage the trucks that will be on the bridge then. There is no need for the HIMARS payload to hit an individual truck.

71 posted on 08/22/2022 3:04:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: dennisw
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72 posted on 08/22/2022 3:19:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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73 posted on 08/22/2022 3:19:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: tsomer

Where’s the benefit in that for us?
__________
Define *us*.

Only benefit is to anyone positioned to profit off the churn, the involved commodities or the armament sales which are now an admitted 2 years of back order. Some sources say 3-4 years to fulfillment.

And, of course, those invested in chaos for its own sake.


74 posted on 08/22/2022 3:49:34 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: freeandfreezing

Why unlikely? If you presume that the vehicles hit contained ammunition and other ordnance as stated in the article, then you have to know which trucks are going across the bridge, and be able to track them in real-time. that technical capability exists. You could get lucky. You could use spies, or observers and accomplish the same thing, yes.

But its far easier to believe our assets fed the weapons data to make the strike. Just my opinion.


75 posted on 08/22/2022 3:53:16 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Vermont Lt

Okay Mr Soros!


76 posted on 08/22/2022 7:24:33 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: BeauBo

[The original MLRS and HIMARS rockets had submunition warheads (as do the Russian Grad MLRS). No doubt we still have lots of the older sub-munition type rockets in inventory.

As they approach the ground, they disperse a cloud of hundreds of little grenades, so they can cover a wider area than a single high explosive warhead. That is more effective for striking supply convoys, because you get more trucks with each rocket, and it is effective at setting off secondary detonations of ammo and fuel on the trucks.

Reportedly, this was an ammo supply convoy (likely artillery rounds, since the Russians are using mountains of them). So the net explosive weight of the trucks cargoes was likely much more than warheads of the rockets - a big force multiplier for effect on the bridge (likely tons of explosives per truck, and reportedly nine trucks).]


This sounds like the cluster bomb equivalent of the Golden BB. Good shooting, but sounds like sheer luck more than anything else - bad for the Russians, good for the Ukrainians.


77 posted on 08/22/2022 8:47:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: RFEngineer

All the Ukies would need is a drone or an observer (partisan, spy, whatever) with a way to communicate.


78 posted on 08/23/2022 1:39:32 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: RFEngineer
Intelligence assets "on the ground" (or close in like a drone) are almost always better. See "Saddam" and "WMD". People forget that every intelligence agency of consequence, in the world, thought Saddam had WMD, but nobody had local assets worth a hoot.
79 posted on 08/23/2022 1:51:03 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Revel

USA made weapons helping Eastern Orthodox slavic people fight off Putin’s invasion.


80 posted on 08/23/2022 8:43:06 AM PDT by Cronos
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