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Pentagon stops F-35 deliveries after discovery of engine part made in China
The Hill ^ | 9/7/2022 | Ellen Mitchell

Posted on 09/07/2022 11:26:43 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: TheBattman
Lockheed-Martin SHOULD be fined (significantly) for this

The F-35 engines are Government Furnished Equipment (GFE). The government buys the engines directly from P&W. Lockheed would have no insight to the engine's parts or P&W's suppliers.

The issue is between the government & P&W.

41 posted on 09/07/2022 12:21:26 PM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: Nextrush

Pratt and Whitney makes the engine.

And the F-22 Raptor engine.

And most US military engines.


42 posted on 09/07/2022 12:21:52 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Tallguy

Wait - Honeywell certified their stuff was in compliance, yet it wasn’t... that is pretty unscrupulous, considering they know where all their parts come from.


43 posted on 09/07/2022 12:33:47 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: Nextrush

Why is our China-Vichy government starting to actually sound concerned about parts made in China? This is second article in the last couple of days on this topic. I thought Xi Apand Xiden were bffs?

We SHOULD be concerned, I’m just wondering why they actually are all of a sudden.


44 posted on 09/07/2022 12:33:50 PM PDT by boxlunch (Red State governors, kick the fednazis OUT of red states! )
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To: Red Badger

“China is the Saudi Arabia of Rare Earth Metals”

Yeah which is one more reason EVs are stupid.

RARE earth materials

rare1

adjective

(of an event, situation, or condition) not occurring very often.
“a rare genetic disorder”
Similar:
infrequent
few and far between
scarce
sparse
scattered
thin on the ground
golden
like gold dust
as scarce as hen’s teeth
occasional
limited
odd
isolated
sporadic
intermittent
unaccustomed
unwonted
out of the common

“(of a thing) not found in large numbers and consequently of interest or value.”

Fossil fuels however....not so much


45 posted on 09/07/2022 12:34:40 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Roccus

“it was not uncommon for the documentation to far outweigh the hardware being shipped”

Yep, seen it many times......if your doin’ it right any. 😏


46 posted on 09/07/2022 12:36:41 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: V_TWIN
Uninformed people bitch about the high cost of military hardware ... "Waste, fraud and abuse!!!", they cry. "The military-industrial complex is lining its pockets", they moan ....

That mountain of paperwork isn't cheap, by a long shot. Aviation parts don't come from Home Depot. And if we want our planes, ships, tanks, whatever to actually work in combat, we need parts that are up to spec. And that means "backed by a mountain of expensive paperwork".

47 posted on 09/07/2022 12:43:06 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: FtrPilot

Note that Pratt & Whitney are now a subsidiary of Raytheon — ask SecDef Lloyd Austin about this.


48 posted on 09/07/2022 12:44:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: Nextrush

So did the third tier supplier “accidentally” get the alloy from China?


49 posted on 09/07/2022 12:45:41 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: TheBattman
Wait - Honeywell certified their stuff was in compliance, yet it wasn’t... that is pretty unscrupulous, considering they know where all their parts come from.

Not necessarily. Certs often get emailed at the time of shipment. Sometimes they get a lot of scrutiny before the parts leave incoming inspection, sometimes this stuff doesn't get caught unless there is some suspicion and the paper trail gets audited.

Best thing to do is to come-clean.

50 posted on 09/07/2022 1:02:20 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Ping


51 posted on 09/07/2022 2:05:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: faithhopecharity
The disadvantages of ordering parts on eBay ?

In the early 1960's Boeing bought every transistor they could on the world market, to use on the Minuteman program. They bought out the entire stock in supply at Radio Shack.

52 posted on 09/07/2022 2:19:07 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Tallguy

Hooray!! A poster that understands Mil-Std-1535 requirements instead of a canned ready, fire, aim comment.


53 posted on 09/07/2022 2:22:42 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Nextrush

This might be an alloy of neodymium, iron, and boron, often referred to simply as a “neo” magnet.

I used to source magnets. Depending on the company, Chinese magnets could be from “inconsistent” (esp. if a reseller), to, from the better companies actually doing the manufacturing, better and more consistent than US companies’ products.


54 posted on 09/07/2022 2:23:59 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Tallguy
Yes: it's the same business as "blood diamonds" and "blood minerals" from Africa. There are all kinds of certifications government contractors are supposed to give that their sources are "clean," but many of the certificate trails end with a Chinese company against whom penalties for false certification are unenforceable.

The propagation of this miasma of corruption is yet another reason for not doing any business with China (or India for that matter).

55 posted on 09/07/2022 2:25:20 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Nextrush

Chinese produced alloy used in magnet production. How much savings could possibly be realized on raw alloy?


56 posted on 09/07/2022 3:47:21 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: pfflier

HA!
good old radio shack

lots of interesting stuff
fun to shop
but as for quality control.... caveat emptor
ha ha

buying for the air force there? what could possibly go wrong? ha!


57 posted on 09/07/2022 4:35:48 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: FtrPilot

My wife worked at a manufacturer who had contracts involving Lockheed. She called Lockheed “Rocket Head.”


58 posted on 09/07/2022 5:26:34 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: faithhopecharity
buying for the air force there? (Radio Shack) what could possibly go wrong? ha!

At the time, late 50's-early 60's, the transistor manufacturers were Motorola, RCA, Ratheon, Western Electric and Hughes to name a few. They were mostly American made products.

Given all that, I'm sure that Radio Shack didn't get the cream of the crop. But, this wasn't your strip mall Radio Shack either. It was geared more to the hobbyist and tinkerer, not cheap games for kids and CB radios for adults that refused to grow up.

Still, I was a Minuteman maintainer for 9 years and the system was/is incredibly reliable because it is made with discrete semiconductors, not tubes or RCL analog circuits. The big problem now with maintaining the system is component availability and a brain drain of people who remember discrete component technology. Who remembers a 2N3906?

59 posted on 09/07/2022 6:13:25 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I have not heard them called that.


60 posted on 09/07/2022 7:21:34 PM PDT by FtrPilot
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