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The Universe Is Not Locally Real, and the Physics Nobel Prize Winners Proved It
Scientific American ^ | 6th oct2022 | Daniel Garisto

Posted on 10/08/2022 11:31:43 AM PDT by Cronos

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To: Cronos

Yes but, if a man and a half can cut a cord of wood in a day and a half, how long would it take a monkey to pick the seeds out of a watermelon.....(?)


41 posted on 10/08/2022 1:04:50 PM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: Cronos

But will it get me a parking place in downtown Manhattan?


42 posted on 10/08/2022 1:10:06 PM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: dsrtsage
I thought the the meaning of life, the universe and everything was 42....(?)
43 posted on 10/08/2022 1:11:30 PM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: Cronos

Really ❓


44 posted on 10/08/2022 1:11:36 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Cronos

In other words:

Acts 17:27God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘ We are His offspring.’


45 posted on 10/08/2022 1:23:35 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Brilliant

It’s true, though...they’ve proven it time after time, measuring the spin rotation between two entangled particles faster than the speed of light.


46 posted on 10/08/2022 1:29:06 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It doesn’t have to be a conscious observer, though...it can just be a device that measures the polarity that forces the particle to spin one way or the other.


47 posted on 10/08/2022 1:33:14 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Dave Wright

But the information is transmitted, somehow, faster than the spreed of light. They’ve proven it by flipping and measuring an entangled pair faster than the speed of light between two locations in the Canary islands.

The opposite spins were measured faster than the speed of light between the two islands. They flipped opposite each other faster than C, so somehow their info was transmitted to each half of the entangled particle instantaneously.


48 posted on 10/08/2022 1:42:43 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: battousai

I believe such questions...such as the sound a tree makes as it falls...whether or not I’m there or no to observe the reality, are rooted in pride and hubris.

When we each and individually come to the conclusion that we are NOT NEEDED to be observers of a given object to establish the reality of it being, then we become closer to knowing God then we could, up to that point, have ever imagined. At that point there is a a pssibility that we can let go of a matter universe that we think we can cling to establish our own veracity, our own sense of solidity of person hood and instead we have the chance to allow God to establish his own reality in each of us thru Jesus Christ! It is not that the universe is “not real”, it is, but we become part of the reality of Jesus Christ who made all things, having been lifted out of that universe in spirit and into the Heart6 and reality that is God. I’m not talking about Buddhism or some sort of ancient heresy. Our flesh is still matter and it shall pass away as heaven and Earth shall pass away; but rather it is more that God dwells in us and we will know the fullness of what the reality is in the day of resurrection.

I believe God is truely omni present but we forget sometimes the chronological aspects of his omnipresence. Perhaps in the times when they were handing out labels to God like being Omniscient and Omnipresent...they should clarified his omnipresence to include the fact that he is Omnichronological...present in all places and permanently present across all time...past present and future. Such a “lifting out” or the “unpacking” of the time aspects in the descriptions of his omnipresence, give a broader dimensionality to Christ’s claims to be “Alpha and Omega, the fiirst and last” and to his mic drop moment when he declared, before eeasily angered clerics....”Before Abraham...I am!”


49 posted on 10/08/2022 1:59:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: frank ballenger
I admit freely that I never understood Deepak Chopra’s explanations of nonlocal events in the universe.

Neither does Chopra. It's just part of the technobabble he wraps around the ancient paganism he preaches.

50 posted on 10/08/2022 2:05:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Cronos

Well, I don’t believe that Presidementia XiJinBiden operates in the ‘real’ world. He operates in his own world. The same can be said for True-dolt in Canaduh, and a number in the WEF. Unfortunately, too many of the above noted people, have too much control over the world.


51 posted on 10/08/2022 2:05:29 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian ( Ceterum autem censeo Justinius True-dope-us esse delendam)
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To: fso301
It's just part of the technobabble he wraps around the ancient paganism he preaches.

That explains a lot. Also reminds me of the Yiddish joke: "When you have a lot of money, you're smart, you're good looking, and you even sing well."

The estimated Net Worth of Deepak Chopra is at least $145 Million dollars as of 7 September 2022. Mr. Chopra owns over 20,000 units of OSI Systems stock worth over $45,054,430 and over the last 19 years he sold OSIS stock worth over $90,380,760.

net worth in Indian rupees is Rs. 3330 crores.

But who's counting?

52 posted on 10/08/2022 2:10:18 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: CatHerd

Well, maybe.

Quantum mechanics is useful for explaining certain puzzling phenomena. Or approaching an irrational explanation that could sometimes be true.


53 posted on 10/08/2022 2:28:51 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Cronos

Nothing is Real...

Strawberry Fields Forever!


54 posted on 10/08/2022 2:52:52 PM PDT by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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To: Honest Nigerian

For Carol to know about Ted’s-tickles they would need a little chemistry.


55 posted on 10/08/2022 2:54:17 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: MHGinTN; metmom; Mark17; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion

Ping


56 posted on 10/08/2022 3:02:52 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: mdmathis6

I really appreciated your post, MDMathis6.

I think of the angels that we can’t see that are, nonetheless, present and may make themselves visible to some at times.

God bless.


57 posted on 10/08/2022 3:06:49 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: Cronos
I'm glad he brought up the poor sock analogy. Sabine Hossenfelder (formerly a particle physicist but now an astrophysicist) likes to use the sock analogy to claim that there is nothing "spooky" about entanglement.

Her argument goes sorta like this: Imagine a man with his eyes closed randomly puts a red sock into one package and a blue sock in another. He doesn't know which package has which sock. He sends one package to Alice and one to Bob. Alice receives her package first. When she opens it and sees a red sock, she instantly knows that Bob will receive a blue sock.

The problem with this analogy is that electrons are not like socks. They don't have a particular state (e.g. up or down spin) even after being entangled.

A better analogy would be that a flickering lamp is placed into each package that is half on and half off, but not in some periodic and predictable fashion. Imagine the lights are set to stay on or stay off when they are removed from the package.

If spooky action at a distance was true for large objects, then when Alice opened her package and saw a light that was on, then when Bob opened his package, the light would be off.

But how could this be true if only the normal rules of physics applied? There is something else happening to "force" the one light to be off if the other is on.

58 posted on 10/08/2022 3:16:06 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Sir_Ed

So sayeth the Science God.


59 posted on 10/08/2022 3:18:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: Stosh
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60 posted on 10/08/2022 4:07:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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