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Yes, Anglos did commit some horrific atrocities, as did the Conquistadors. But this is pure ignorance. News flash, Borrego. There are a paucity of Injuns (Native Americans, Indigenous peoples, whatever) East of the Mississippi for a simple reason. Andrew Jackson forcibly removed them to Oklahoma. It was called the Trail of Tears. Even so, there are a number of Indian reservations in New York State.

https://www.google.com/search?q=indian+reservations+in+new+york+state+map&oq=Indian+reservations+in+New+York&aqs=chrome.1.0i512l4j0i22i30l6.10136j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=Bfenav9IHeVBMM

I don't know who chopped off 8,000 Native American feet in New Mexico. Have they found 8,000 footless skeletons there? Might it be that it was a fabrication? A decree by Juan de Onate that was never, or only partially, carried out? It's unlikely that it was all done at once, if it was done at all.

1 posted on 11/27/2022 6:17:46 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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San Antonio celebrated its 300th anniversary in 2018. It is the home of 5 Spanish missions along the San Antonio River, all about the same age or more. The missions were settled by indigenous people of the time. They were fortified, not to keep the people in, rather, to keep marauding tribes out. The residents CHOSE to live there for their own safety. This was a century and a half before Geronimo.


82 posted on 11/27/2022 11:08:17 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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Indians are lucky that when the world discovered this new world, it was the whites who were first, rather than China and the orientals.


87 posted on 11/27/2022 11:58:30 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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From Wiki
“Of the 500 or so survivors, at a trial at Ohkay Owingeh, Oñate sentenced most to twenty years of forced “personal servitude” and additionally mandated that all men over the age of twenty-five have a foot cut off.[3] Recent research has indicated that there is no evidence of this happening and that, at most, the prisoners lost some toes. This latter theory makes sense, for losing toes rather than a whole foot left the prisoners useful as servants.[4] In Onate’s personal journal, he specifically refers to the punishment of the Acoma warriors as cutting off “las puntas del pie” (the points of the foot, the toes).[5] He was eventually banished from New Mexico and exiled from Mexico for five years, convicted by the Spanish government of using “excessive force” against the Acoma people.”


89 posted on 11/27/2022 12:03:34 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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And just like all other places in the world, Indian Tribes attacked and massacred other Indian Tribes for what they had and even some were cannibals as has been documented other places. Not all of these tribes were friendly minding their own business Indians.


106 posted on 11/27/2022 2:05:41 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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Borrego sorry but all you got was an oral story, nothing written by indians. Also not indigenous all tribes came from someplace else.


120 posted on 11/27/2022 3:55:57 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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Borrego says, “Indian chiefs on reservations don’t want to talk about this, because they fear reprisals from the government and losing the casinos that they’ve been given as compensation.”

That isn’t true at all. An American Indian can criticize the government, historical white settlers, present day whites, anything he wants to say, true or likely apocryphal, like the foot amputation story. There won’t be any reprisals, no loss of casinos, just guilt and apologies, or silence. The foot cutting story is proof Indians can say what they want.

Borrego is anti-Anglo but pro-Mexican. The pro-Mexican agenda is a bit of a twist, but there is an Aztlan movement. I wonder what the non-Aztec Indians of the US Southwest and Mexico think of the Aztecs today? Would they like to be under the rule of their descendants? Do the Navajo and Pueblo people prefer Mexican rule to US? Are they angry with their ancestors for allying with the Spanish? Do they feel like they are all one people now, compared to the Europeans? Are narco lords Aztecs?


128 posted on 11/30/2022 3:04:26 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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