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Russia’s army is so ineffective it will probably not be able to take much territory in Ukraine for ‘the next several months’, UK intel says
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Posted on 12/12/2022 1:33:15 PM PST by dennisw

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RE: it will probably not be able to take much territory in Ukraine for ‘the next several months’,

What happens after ‘the next several months’?


21 posted on 12/12/2022 2:12:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: dennisw
“UK Intel” is gonna trigger a lot of FReepers.

And for good reason. You've posted over 100 Ukraine articles on this forum, citing "UK Intel" or "British sources," that have turned out to be patently false.

22 posted on 12/12/2022 2:13:16 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: it will probably not be able to take much territory in Ukraine for ‘the next several months’, What happens after ‘the next several months’?

The translation here is that Russian and Ukrainian forces will hunker down for this winter. There will be artillery exchanges. A few minor battles. BUT the real action/war resumes in the Spring.

I agree with this.

23 posted on 12/12/2022 2:18:13 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Correction:
False in your opinion. All you have are your opinions. Who do you think you are? An all knowing, omnipotent Tsar, like Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (born 7 October 1952) ?


24 posted on 12/12/2022 2:22:18 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: dennisw

Let’s all cheerlead for Putin! Putin is my hero! We should all kiss his ass!


25 posted on 12/12/2022 2:34:46 PM PST by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: dennisw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wZfjd-byNk

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for December 12, 2022.

- Russia continues its war of attrition - focusing on exhausting and overwhelming critical Ukrainian defenses around Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine/western Russia;
- Despite claims that Russian missile stockpiles are depleted, Russia continues carrying out regular, large-scale missile barrages against Ukrainian infrastructure;

- Latest US assistance package for Ukraine continues the trend of dwindling, inadequate support for Ukraine;
- US government procurement numbers over the course of the next 2-5 years indicates that at no time in the near future will the US be capable of producing let alone supplying Ukraine with the number of weapons and ammunition it requires;
- While Russian production data is not available, the fact that Russia’s stockpiles and military were configured for large-scale protracted and intense combat suggests its military industrial output is likewise configured for such demands;
- The Western media is now admitting that Ukraine can neither win, nor is there any moral imperative to ensure that it does...

26 posted on 12/12/2022 2:40:13 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Renfrew

Hmmm. “the training and tactical leadership required to conduct complex offensive operations does not exist inside Ukraine’s army” Maybe so, maybe not. Yet such a capability plainly does not exist in the Russian army.


27 posted on 12/12/2022 2:40:21 PM PST by Rockingham
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“take much”?!? With no army, no equipment, no ammo and no hope, how can they take anything? I wish you’d get with the FR Biden spokespeople before you post this Putin stoogery. They’ll explain to you how Russia was beaten in April and has been totally beaten again each subsequent week.


28 posted on 12/12/2022 2:52:51 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: dennisw
False in your opinion.

Six days ago, you made the claim in this thread that Russia was out of drones (citing British sources):

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4114470/posts

A few hours after you posted the article, I received reports of Russian drone attacks on Ukrainian positions in Donetsk. And three days after that, we learned of Geran-2 drone attacks on the power plant near Odessa.

Usually it takes a couple of weeks to prove your assertions wrong, but in this case, your claim was refuted in four hours. It was hilarious!

29 posted on 12/12/2022 3:02:06 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Cathi

Amen.
As Bannon says, “signal to noise.”
On all things US MIC/NATO/EU/Ukraine/Russia, Free Republic is almost all noise, no signal.
Time will tell, results will out.


30 posted on 12/12/2022 3:11:30 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Renfrew
How's your bros doing in Bakhmut?

Staying warm and dry I hope.


31 posted on 12/12/2022 3:16:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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“How’s your bros doing in Bakhmut?”

Pretty well from all reports. Four months of being the main focus of the entire Russian Army, and yet the town has held.


32 posted on 12/12/2022 3:21:09 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

And the Russians say, “Keep feeding your army into the insane meat-grinding machine.” Saves Russians the trouble of going out to find and destroy their enemies. Conservation of force that will be studied for generations. Mosquitos who will keep flying into the bug zapper light until there are no more of them.

You really should take the time to listen to the conversation between Colonel Douglas Macgregor and Dr. Michael Vlahos.

{Or, just stay in your bubble of sublime unconquerable ignorance, until it bursts.}

[I’m not really directing this to you, but lurkers who might read it. I know you are in the bubble.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIIM043x_FI&t=01s&ab_channel=DouglasMacgregor


33 posted on 12/12/2022 3:28:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Six days ago, you made the claim in this thread that Russia was out of drones (citing British sources):
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4114470/posts
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You are correct on that one. There had been no Russian drones over Ukraine for 5 weeks or so. So Russia had indeed run out of drones. But the Iranians replenished them. There was Russian drones action the day after the truthful article was published.


34 posted on 12/12/2022 3:31:22 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Cathi
You have to go to sites like Moon of Alabama to get intelligent conversation.


35 posted on 12/12/2022 3:32:18 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: PGR88
“ If Russia dropped a nuke on MI6 HQ, it would be a good thing for freedom-loving Americans everywhere.”

They were in the thick of our Presidential coup. Act of war!!!

36 posted on 12/12/2022 3:33:09 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Baruch Ha Ba Ba Shem Adonai!)
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Though I hate seeing Russia attacking Ukraine the thought that they’re Military is being destroyed is not good. Not good for Russia and Not good for Europe.

The Chinese Military also sees the weakness being shown by Russia and they are chomping at the bit just waiting to take out western Russia. There is No way that Russia will be able to defend its Western territories against a Chinese invasion without the Use of nuclear weapons.

I think Russia has more to fear from China than Taiwan does.


37 posted on 12/12/2022 3:33:24 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: Travis McGee

What I am anxious to see is whether Russia follows through on the big offensive that they have been preparing for since late summer. Or whether based on how successful they have been recently they just keep up the de-nazifying and de-militarizing for as long as Zelensky keeps feeding large numbers of additional troops into the grinder in his desperate bid to achieve some offensive victory in order to keep his “partners” on board.

“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”...:-) They may want to maintain their impressive manpower and material advantage in case NATO (read U.S.) makes the foolish decision to directly engage.


38 posted on 12/12/2022 3:33:35 PM PST by Cathi
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And now the fresh Nuland Neocon Gang provocation in Serbia adds a twist.


39 posted on 12/12/2022 3:41:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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The translation here is that Russian and Ukrainian forces will hunker down for this winter. There will be artillery exchanges. A few minor battles. BUT the real action/war resumes in the Spring.

The weather is warmer in Crimea. So it would make sense for Ukraine to wait until Spring. Right now it is damp and muddy so it wouldn't make sense to try to seize Crimea right now.

40 posted on 12/12/2022 3:48:48 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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