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In 2022, The IRS Went After The Very Poorest Taxpayers: Despite $80 billion in new funding, the agency is living up to its reputation of hassling low-income taxpayers over rich people
Reason ^ | 01/08/2023 | Liz Wolfe

Posted on 01/08/2023 6:04:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Poor taxpayers cant afford lawyers.


21 posted on 01/08/2023 7:05:57 PM PST by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: Night Hides Not
All an auditor needed to do was disallow a few deductions for lack of substantiation, and voila! Greater SE income and less EIC.

The problem that many people seem to fail to understand is that the IRS operates under a you have to prove yourself innocent rule. The IRS can take your money and they do not have to prove a thing.

It is harder for those poor overworked civil servant to do that to rich people because they have lawyers and congress critters in their back pocket.

We never take EIC but we are a small business and yes we have been audited more then once. I am very dedicated to having paper receipts for everything.

22 posted on 01/08/2023 7:11:04 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: SeekAndFind

Buffett runs his mouth about the rich paying more. Knowing that 70,000+ pages protect him.

He’s made a living fighting the IRS to avoid taxes

https://meaww.com/pro-publica-irs-leaks-warren-buffett-slammed-for-not-paying-taxes

https://www.accountingtoday.com/news/buffetts-netjets-beats-irs-on-366mn-claim

https://www.law360.com/employment-authority/articles/389849/bnsf-wins-22m-tax-fight-over-relocation-stock-benefits

There was another one where he and his lawyers fought the IRS for years. Owed millions. Legit millions. Finally won and the whole time able to write off legal expenses.

They love going after the folks that can’t defend themselves. No different than the DOJ and it’s 97% Conviction rate.


23 posted on 01/08/2023 7:20:30 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Taxman

Ping


24 posted on 01/08/2023 7:33:43 PM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: SeekAndFind

im ok with EIC audits

lot of fraud there


25 posted on 01/08/2023 7:35:17 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yikes! But how much money can they get from low income people?


26 posted on 01/08/2023 7:47:56 PM PST by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Bernard

I predicted this a while ago. Looking for the underground income where a persons standard of living doesn’t match their income stream.


27 posted on 01/08/2023 7:51:04 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: NetAddicted

The goal is intimidating people. They simply start with the most defenseless and work up to the more comfortable middle class. The feds create all the money they want. Taxes are irrelevant to spending.


28 posted on 01/08/2023 8:00:15 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Food. Gotta teach the poor they need to pay their fair share. And besides, that’s where the money is.


29 posted on 01/08/2023 8:00:48 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: SeekAndFind

Honestly though, these are the people who work and don’t claim it but do claim 6 kids and stock losses and $150k in child care and...


30 posted on 01/08/2023 8:03:30 PM PST by struggle
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To: WASCWatch

IIRC, somewhere around 25-30% of EITC returns are fraudulent. An ex-DIL did that. Claimed both kids lived with her during an entire year when they were living in another state. Had to pay it back and got a minor slap on the wrist.

I did tax returns for a few years. Had people trying to claim all sorts of people as qualifying kids. One friend discovered a woman with 9 kids. She filed for the EITC on three of them (maxing it out) and ‘loaned’ the other 6 out to other families in return for half of the EITC refund.

Very high fraud. Same with the additional child tax credit.


31 posted on 01/08/2023 8:04:13 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The current operation makes sense. The difference in the amount of tax requirement between each end of the system is very simple.

The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI of $546,434 and above) paid the highest effective income tax rate of 25.6 percent—more than seven times the rate faced by the bottom 50 percent of taxpayers. So Uncle Sugar is getting their booty from the top end at an incredible rate because they have the money to pay it. The bottom end of the scale doesn’t have to money especially with the increased inflation rate so it looks like they are always in the loop. It’s a simple formula, the rich have the money and the poor do not. And they make less worth than they did so the media blames the rich for not giving it away to them.

Sells papers

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32 posted on 01/08/2023 8:13:35 PM PST by whitney69
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Back in the 60s, they audited my late father in law 3 years in a row. Each time, they found small errors in THEIIR favor, and had to give him a refund.

Never audited him again, the rest of his life.


33 posted on 01/08/2023 8:15:36 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Why are there so many more horse's @33es than horses?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The poor are chased down because they can crash the system. The wealthy don’t directly pay income taxes and there aren’t enough middle class to crash the system, especially since most will do it right because they have too much at stake.


34 posted on 01/08/2023 8:29:41 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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The reason is it’s easy to identify who is qualified for earned income. It’s a quick audit and a letter saying you owe back taxes. Very simple. I personally don’t think there should be earned income credit at all.

At least not refunding more than they had withheld. There’s a sweet spot in the tables where EITC gives thousands more than they paid in.


35 posted on 01/08/2023 9:17:25 PM PST by rxh4n1
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To: jjotto

Nothing in the codes dictate giving an IRS auditor a comfy chair in my kitchen. My audit will be miles away from any living human, in the woods. I’m betting I can run faster than an auditor.


36 posted on 01/08/2023 9:29:17 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: SeekAndFind

“low-income wage-earners taking the earned income tax credit,”

These folks are usually illegal immigrants.

EIC allows you to get back more from the gov than taxes you actually paid, especially when you claim you have 20 or so dependents in mexico you’re taking care of.

The more kids, the more you get in credit.


37 posted on 01/09/2023 2:33:42 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Bonemaker

Correct and with the EIC they can get a refund even if they do not owe taxes.


38 posted on 01/09/2023 2:47:30 AM PST by EBH
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Looking for the underground income where a persons standard of living doesn’t match their income stream.

Start with members of Congress.

39 posted on 01/09/2023 5:07:12 AM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: SeekAndFind

The rich give money to the politicians and in return are spared the treatment given to the ordinary folk.

The harassment of the poor people serves to teach them their place in society: at the bottom and who their true masters are.


40 posted on 01/09/2023 5:14:50 AM PST by I want the USA back (News media not worth camel spit. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho. )
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