Posted on 02/10/2023 6:16:41 PM PST by Golden Eagle
So the whitest, most American age group hopes for the invasion to fail?
Yo sport, Greeks were in Crimea before the Slavs moved out if the Pripyet marshes.
The Brits aren’t fighting this time. And Russia is showing the same errors it made in the 1850s
“London will be one of the first places Russia nukes and there is good reason for that.”
This is how one makes russophobes btw.
True, turnabout is always fair play.
The Ukies have already made strikes into Crimea, on ships in the Black Sea, and a few into Russia, in case you had not noticed.
Now, significant bombardment of civilian neighborhoods in Russia would be a serious escalation, but:
1) NATO is supplying the targeting data.
2) NATO has shown no will to supply any more than the bare minimum / a pitiful supply of short range missiles. See “HIMARS”.
3) The Ukies’ own best interest is to limit strikes to mid-range (~200 km max) military and military logistics targets.
4) The Ukies are not Hamas.
Why not skip Crimea and launch them at Moscow. Russia has launched missiles at Kiev.
Then Russia could launch missiles at London.
Then all NATO countries would be obligated to launch missiles at Moscow. Including the US.
See where this is going.
Clarification to “3” in my post 66:
2) NATO has shown no will to supply any more than the bare minimum / a pitiful supply of short range missiles. See “HIMARS”. What evidence is there to suggest it would more abundantly supply longer range missiles?
Because it is both tactically and strategically unsound.
Because, as I answered another poster above, it is both tactically and strategically unsound.
To be sure, where I disagree is with your last 2 words. Instead of behaving like Hamas and convincing every Russian they are in personal danger, Ukraine needs to destroy Russian military logistics anywhere inside Ukraine's pre-2014 borders, and perhaps some key links no more than 50 miles inside Russia. That would render the invasion / occupation totally unsustainable in short order. So, I'd say "yes" to a much larger supply of HIMARS, "yes" to a beefy supply of small glide bombs and M777-ER, and "yes" to a modest supply of medium range missiles, with the stipulation that the latter only be used within 50 miles of Ukraine, and only on clearly military / logistics targets with civilian casualties minimized. (No attacks on civilian-filled train stations, for example. No willy-nilly attacks on cities, either. While perhaps justified in an "eye for an eye (etc.)" mindset, these do not serve Ukraine's best interests.)
The Crimea has been what this civil war has been about from day 1.
You are so full of crap.
MeganCheny. It carries the same blood lust of Dick and Liz.
—> 3) The Ukies’ own best interest is to limit strikes to mid-range (~200 km max) military and military logistics targets.
They seem determined to provoke WWIII and I do not believe that is because it is in their interest.
Foreigners are not our business. We are not the universal hall monitors. The K Street globalists love to use these interventionists platitudes to start forever wars that make them richer. You are either a barca lounger warrior anxious for another ‘good war’ or a paid hack. You have never spent a moment in one of these forever wars that you love so much. There is nothing conservative about globalism or any of its attendant plagues and military interventionism is one. You go to one of these hell holes instead of feeling like a great patriot by killing Putin with your mouth.
I’ve been to these hell holes. I’ve seen what Russia does its neighbors. If we’re ok with that then we are abandoning 250 years of American history and adopting the situation ethics of K Street. Conservatives will become no better than the CCP and at that point really what’s the point? Our American heritage will be gone.
And your basis for that analysis is? Why would Ukraine want to be obliterated? That’s the likely result of any of the more likely paths to WW3.
To bad, it is their problem and none of our own. You have been there how, as a K Street shill and agent? Not wearing any military uniform I will bet. People like you always happy to feel very virtuous offering some other American with fewer dollars and no connections to be killed participating in some ‘national grandeur’ scheme to get you promoted and get those you stooge for more wealth.
—> Why would Ukraine want to be obliterated?
Ukraine isn’t in control.
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