”Right”...“the people“...”keep and bear arms”....What am I missing?
Posted on 02/27/2023 6:36:06 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
The first part in no way qualifies the second part. I suppose if they had forseen a concerted effort to mangle the meaning of words and grammar, maybe.
Then again, several from the time did warn that the type of government was for a moral people. "A Republic, if you can keeo it"--Benjamin Franklin
I think his education comes form MK Ultra.
“Section 13. That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Declaration_of_Rights
The phrase is a legacy from the Virginia Declaration of Rights, which was obviously seen as insufficient in 1791.
Excuse me, there are those amount you David that self identify as a woman when born a man...... well I self identify as a militia 🤣🤣🤣
The most notable things about David Hogg are his tiny little stick arms and his oversized head. He looks like a skinny emaciated version of a T-Rex .
Little pissant communist...
Massachusetts Bill of Rights 1780
“XVII.—The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as in time of peace armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.”
“XXX.—In the government of this Commonwealth, the legislative department shall never exercise the executive and judicial powers, or either of them: The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them: The judicial shall never exercise the legislative and executive powers, or either of them: to the end it may be a government of laws and not of men.”
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss6.html
Pennsylvania Constitution of 1776, Declaration of Rights
XIII. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss5.html
I am a militia of one.
“Bill of Rights 1 W. & M., 2d sess., c. 2,
16 Dec. 1689
An act for declaring the rights and liberties of the subject, and settling the succession of the crown
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6. By causing several good subjects, being protestants, to be disarmed, at the same time when papists were both armed and employed, contrary to law”
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss1.html
Take it from me, beeotch
“Is another object of a bill of rights to define certain immunities and modes of proceeding, which are relative to personal and private concerns?”
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, no. 84
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss7.html
The Second Amendment is one of the most clear amendments in the Constitution.
Militias are ad-hoc. Built as needed. So to be available for that formation, the people need to be armed and ready. There’s no distinction as to what people. It’s simply a right of “the people”.
It couldn’t be more plain in its description.
But no one ever accused the left of intelligent thought and comprehension...
Young Mr. Hogg’s history education must have skipped the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Sure hope he’s vaxxed and boosted.
“We, the delegates of the people of the state of New York, duly elected and met in Convention, having maturely considered the Constitution for the United States of America, agreed to on the 17th day of September, in the year 1787, by the Convention then assembled at Philadelphia, in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, (a copy whereof precedes these presents,) and having also seriously and deliberately considered the present situation of the United States,—Do declare and make known,—”
“That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state.”
“Under these impressions, and declaring that the rights aforesaid cannot be abridged or violated, and that the explanations aforesaid are consistent with the said Constitution, and in confidence that the amendments which shall have been proposed to the said Constitution will receive an early and mature consideration,—We, the said delegates, in the name and in the behalf of the people of the state of New York, do, by these presents, assent to and ratify the said Constitution.”
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss8.html
Well that’s settled.
“North Carolina Ratifying Convention, Declaration of Rights and Other Amendments”
“1. That there are certain natural rights, of which men, when they form a social compact, cannot deprive or divest their posterity, among which are the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.”
https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/bill_of_rightss10.html
”Right”...“the people“...”keep and bear arms”....What am I missing?
I don’t know how to tell this, but I have no problem saying it.
THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT GIVE CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO HAVE GUNS.
Our constitution, yes, it’s ours, does not tell US citizens what they can or can not do. It tells the federal government what it can do. If it’s not in the document, then the government has no right to do it.
Our constitution tells congress that they can call up a militia to respond to threats foreign and domestic - and it even specifically says uprisings.
The 2nd Amendment lays out how the congress will be able to call up a militia to respond to those threats. It states very clearly that the Congress must protect private gun ownership, offering the weapons and training to do so. The US Government has been derelict in it’s constitutional duty.
The Congress is supposed to give us access to the military-grade weapons (We used to, and still do, recognise this as the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship program) and keep us trained. That’s the word “Regulated”.
The word “Regulated” DID NOT MEAN that they were to control our use of the weapons. Back in the day, when this document was written, the word “regulated” meant “kept in good working condition”. Towns had clocks everywhere that were syncronized by a clock at the post office (usually). Those clocks had “REGULATOR” emblazoned across the face. That meant it was the official time. Clocks that “REGULATED” emblazoned on them meant they were not official time, but were instead set by the REGULATOR periodically.
So the Constitution tells the Congress that they must keep an armed forced comprised of civilians who are armed and trained by the Congress.
LET ME REPEAT THIS NOW. THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO. IT TELLS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHAT THEY CAN DO.
State governments set the rules otherwise as long as it does not interfere with the universal law of the land (The US Constitution). So a state can not overwrite these laws. IE: a state can not pass any law that bans guns at any level.
So where do our rights to have guns come from? Well, it comes from God, and we earn it by waking up in the morning.
All of god’s creatures have weapons and defenses. Wolves have teeth, birds have talons and beaks, deer have antlers and hooves and even rabbits have ears and speed. Turtles have defenses. Humans have an incredible defense mechanism that has taken us to the top of the food chain - OUR BRAIN.
We have the ability to develop and use tools and weapons and the gun is just one of those weapons. We have a NATURAL RIGHT, not a right given to us by a document, but a RIGHT that we have just by existing.
I will be GODDAMNED if any man, or group of men will tell me how, when or IF I can defend myself and those around me. To submit to such nonsense is completely intolerable. Anyone who wishes to disarm you directly wishes for you to be harmed or killed and those people are my enemy and I shall fight them until THEIR dying breath.
Because I know it won’t be my dying breath.
So David Hogg, get on your bike and come here. Come here now if you’re not a lowly coward. I will show you the full emotion and conviction of my abilities to tear you apart like a bear to a trout.
And please, to all my fellow Freepers - Don’t ever say that the constitution protects your right to own and bear arms. It does not. Your creator did that when he put a magnificent brain between your ears. The constitution does not give you anything - it tells the Federal government the short list of things they can do, and how they shall do them. Nothing that the Federal government does beyond that document is legal.
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