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Putin revamps Russian tanks with Arena-M shield to counter Western weapons in Ukraine
Hindustan times ^ | April 5, 2023 | Hindustan Times - staff

Posted on 04/05/2023 5:15:51 PM PDT by Widget Jr

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To: buwaya

Unless Russia planned only to fight guerrillas in Dagestan.==

Russian tanks had met tow2 in Syria. And an encounter showed that the modern Russian armor of 1990s holds against it pretty well.

Tow2 makes some damage to t72B3 or t90 but easy fixable in a field repair depo. SO no need for Arena in Syria.

Today Ukraine shows the intensity much bigger than there. SO maybe they decided to employ Arena after all. We will see how it will work on a field.


41 posted on 04/05/2023 8:01:29 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1
That is a valid point about the role of bringing T-54/55 tanks into Ukraine.

It also means Russia has lost so many tanks, artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, they need to bring T-54/55s out of storage. In addition to that, they have to buy 100 mm ammunition from Iran and North Korea.

If any country other than Russia fought like this, it would be seen they are losing. Russia is living off its past World War II and Cold War reputation that the current Russian army no longer deserves.

42 posted on 04/05/2023 8:03:48 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: ansel12

After being slaughtered so much on the battlefield you are out of tanks and your country had to haul these rusting hulks to the field.==

You had been reading too much of ukie propaganda but it is OK. It is your problem after all.

A desperate solution to a desperate army.==

This army will win eventually. Because Russia always has a tactical nukes to throw at enemy. Now she kinda restrict herself but you understand that if needed they WILL be used for victory.


43 posted on 04/05/2023 8:05:44 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: Kazan

So what?

Russia will take Bakhmut, eventually, maybe, we'll get back to you on that.
Beyond Bakhmut are miles of defense in depth.
They are going no where fast after taking it.

44 posted on 04/05/2023 8:11:39 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні, ватники! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni, Vatnyky! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr

It also means Russia has lost so many tanks, artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, they need to bring T-54/55s out of storage.==

They are stored for the war. If not spend them now then when? It will clear space for newer staff.

In addition to that, they have to buy 100 mm ammunition from Iran and North Korea.==

Lot of them also in a storage. Must be spent too.

If any country other than Russia fought like this, it would be seen they are losing.==

What about Afghanistan then? America SEEMED fought well but still ran out. Strange right if judge her with same criteria like Russia? SO maybe the clue is in just to be but not to appear?


45 posted on 04/05/2023 8:11:56 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: ganeemead
The reason Russia is getting the the T54/55 out of storage is they lost so many newer tanks and artillery they have nothing else left.

The west is sending left overs from the Gulf and Iraq Wars, cleaning the Russia military's collectivist clocks and taking all their silverware.

46 posted on 04/05/2023 8:15:25 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні, ватники! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni, Vatnyky! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: nickfrost1

LOL, I’m just watching the months go by and how your equipment keeps moving backward in time and the desperate search for old weapons to equip your new replacements, so that they will have something, anything, to go into the meat-grinder with.

What a long 14 months it has been for what remains of your military.


47 posted on 04/05/2023 8:20:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Widget Jr

Arena-M armour is NOT very effective against Javelins. It may do better vs. some other light & medium anti-tank weapons, but I agree: It is useless against mines or artillery, esp. the Excalibur HTK.


48 posted on 04/05/2023 8:54:48 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“Big ships are fine targets.”

Like the Moskva? LOL!!!


49 posted on 04/05/2023 9:13:23 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: ansel12

What a long 14 months it has been for what remains of your military.==

May be you will be interested how the “remains of military” is dealing with “first class” ukies military?

Enjoy: https://youtu.be/7VjAkXwljQk


50 posted on 04/06/2023 12:34:14 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: ansel12

Here you may see how ukie shoot their propaganda.

https://t.me/Ukr_G_M/17256


51 posted on 04/06/2023 1:16:52 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: Widget Jr
"The reason Russia is getting the the T54/55 out of storage is they lost so many newer tanks and artillery they have nothing else left. "

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52 posted on 04/06/2023 2:07:10 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: nickfrost1

Clearly saw 2023 video of a train loaded with unmistakable T-34 headed to Ukraine. That means they stripped the museum’s for them or they have in storage.

Video from last November showed T-55 (round top) headed there.

While quantity does have quality of its own, these tanks are vulnerable to first generation antitank missiles. Two men and a Jeep, or a Bradley with a TOW, 5000 meters plus out. There is a lot of TOW missiles sitting around, maybe more than T-55/54 tanks.


53 posted on 04/06/2023 3:36:48 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

Fact Check-Video purporting to show Soviet-era tanks shipped from Russia to Ukraine dates to at least 2019.

Here: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-soviet-tanks/fact-check-video-purporting-to-show-soviet-era-tanks-shipped-from-russia-to-ukraine-dates-to-at-least-2019-idUSL1N35W0RS

Congratulations! You are a victim of ukies propaganda.

Video from last November showed T-55 (round top) headed there.==

None sends t55s to a front as they are. First they are upgraded to t55M.


54 posted on 04/06/2023 4:43:58 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

You are seeming sort of desperate, even calling the weak next-door army you thought you would run over in days, “first class”.


55 posted on 04/06/2023 6:43:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: nickfrost1

None sends t55s to a front as they are. First they are upgraded to t55M.

Just checked ORYX. No listing of destroyed T-34 or T-55. However, their are registered losses of Russian un-upgraded T-62’s. The ‘M’ stands for the reactive armor addition. Unfortunately, reactive armor system is deactivated by opening a hatches.


56 posted on 04/06/2023 1:01:21 PM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: ansel12

But it you who deem ukies a “first class” army. I for one not since you may see I put them into parentheses.

And ukie army isn’t that bad. I’d like to see how will perform any NATO army under same circumstances. NATO ran out from Afghanistan after all.


57 posted on 04/06/2023 1:09:50 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: Pete Dovgan

Unfortunately, reactive armor system is deactivated by opening a hatches.==

It is a new. Never heard nothing like this.


58 posted on 04/06/2023 1:10:46 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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To: nickfrost1

Your posts went from desperate to getting sillier.


59 posted on 04/06/2023 1:16:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Your posts went from desperate to getting sillier.==

It is all you can say? Not much indeed. Or just you forgot what you said few posts ago? “Remnants of military” you said on Russian military.

If so then what it will become ukies? “First class” I guess. No?

SO one question follows up then how so the “first class” military and armed to teeth by western weaponry still can’t win over “remnants”? Strange isn’t? Kinda remind Afghanistan again right? )))


60 posted on 04/06/2023 1:34:46 PM PDT by nickfrost1
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