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‘War Is Fun’: The Navy SEAL Who Went to Ukraine Because He Couldn’t Stop Fighting
The Wall Street Journal ^ | May 12, 2023 | Ian Lovett and Brett Forrest

Posted on 05/12/2023 7:32:31 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican
"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter."
-- Ernest Hemingway

41 posted on 05/12/2023 9:20:38 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Sounds very much like a cover story used to [thinly] disguise our involvement training and fighting alongside Ukrainians.

/\ This

42 posted on 05/12/2023 9:28:18 AM PDT by USMC79to83
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To: ansel12; Flash Bazbeaux

What’s not to like about a .50cal and tracers?


43 posted on 05/12/2023 10:10:59 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: eastforker

An E-6 Scout squad leader I knew in ‘81 got out of the Army after Viet Nam and spent several years in Rhodesia under an assumed name then reenlisted in the US Army to finish his 20 years.

He liked killing communists, had some hair raising Polaroids from both wars.


44 posted on 05/12/2023 10:21:30 AM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
My ex-brother-in-law was a heroin freak in Viet Nam and volunteered as a door gunner.   He did time and is tracked as a sex offender in Virginia for having relations with his underage step daughter.

But the worst thing he ever did was teach my impressionable younger brother how to shoplift.   I always hated that evil scum and tried to tell my sister how I felt.

My nephew, grew up to be a devout, forthright, honest man, and good father to his son, Praise the Lord.   Hint: my sister had declined child support when my nephew was a baby to pervent his dad having visitation rights.

45 posted on 05/12/2023 11:34:49 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Carriage Hill

.50cal ?


46 posted on 05/12/2023 2:48:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Ah yes, The Atlantic has his TDS screed

Not surprised by either one


47 posted on 05/12/2023 3:13:29 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: ansel12

.30cal?


48 posted on 05/12/2023 3:34:51 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_gunner
“For the majority of the Vietnam War, the principal weapon of the door gunner was a medium machine gun (MG), initially, a M1919A4 .30 caliber MG, and soon thereafter, the M60 7.62mm MG became the standard helicopter door armament system.”


49 posted on 05/12/2023 4:06:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for the information; I just guessed at 50cal.
30cal makes more sense due to size.


50 posted on 05/13/2023 7:03:56 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: USMC79to83
Pretty clever.

For those who lack the intellect to recall or grasp, Viet Nam started with "advisors" and escalated. This conflict has the potential to escalate much, much quicker with unpredictable and potentially disastrous consequences.

51 posted on 05/13/2023 7:42:41 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Save the Republic - VOTE TRUMP!!!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“”For those who lack the intellect to recall or grasp, Viet Nam started with “advisors” and escalated.””

Not really.

Truman put advisors there in 1950, Eisenhower kept them there through 2 terms and then JFK came along and decided to put in 16,000 troops, so it wasn’t advisors that caused the problem and we have advisors all over the world without problems, even when they get killed.


52 posted on 05/13/2023 6:27:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

You might want to know of that 16,000 troops, 14,000 were there to maintain the helicopters that were sent in for South Vietnam during the 1960-1961 time frame and after. Those helicopters were part of the CIA not the regular Army or Air Force.

Read the books of Col. Fletcher Prouty on this as he was very involved in that operation.


53 posted on 05/13/2023 6:32:43 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I know what they were, and how the media always writes to protect JFK which is why almost no Americans know what a disaster he was.

We can send 16,000 troops to Ukraine without calling them troops also, I suppose, as long as they aren’t infantry.


54 posted on 05/13/2023 6:42:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Two years ago, I read newer books about Kennedy and the assassination, and I change my opinion of Kennedy. I don’t think he was a disaster. I think he had some original thinking about foreign policy and things we need to do. He certainly recognize that the CIA under Allen Dulles had become a rogue agency and was involved in a lot of covert operations that they shouldn’t have been.
On that alone, I would’ve supported Kennedy in dismantling the CIA. If you go back and read the original charter and law, under which the CIA became in existence you will find that their original intent, and purpose was not what they ended up becoming.


55 posted on 05/13/2023 7:06:50 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

JFK being elected is what ended America.


56 posted on 05/13/2023 7:10:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Not even close.
Passage of the 17th Amendment and The Federal Reserve Act killed America.

The Revolution happened in November 1932 along with Progressive Politics.


57 posted on 05/13/2023 9:04:14 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Not even close, Americans could survive those and reverse those as politics changed.

What America didn’t and couldn’t survive were JFKs immigration goals which have ended us.

It didn’t help that he gave us the 60s and unionized federal employees, homelessness, affirmative action, LBJ and Ted Kennedy.

History would be completely different if Eisenhower’s veep had won in 1960.


58 posted on 05/13/2023 9:22:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Nixon did win, but Cook County stole it from him.


59 posted on 05/13/2023 9:39:56 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: ansel12

We will have to disagree then.


60 posted on 05/13/2023 10:31:45 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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