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Russia threatens to launch tactical nukes in response to Ukraine drone blitz on Moscow as rattled Vlad breaks silence
The Sun ^ | May 30th, 2023 | Nick Parker

Posted on 05/30/2023 3:04:51 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: dfwgator
> Russia's military failures in Finland, gave Hitler hope. <

By golly, that’s something to consider. Before invading Russia, Hitler said that the Soviet Union was like a rotted door, one that would collapse with one good kick. It sure didn’t work out that way. So you never know.

Berlin, 1945:


41 posted on 05/30/2023 4:09:16 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

The Washington initiation of this conflict is well documented going bact to Minsk and Maiden provocation of Russia.
You may not like it, but it is true and that puts you on the side of Osama/Bidementia, Blinken, vampiress Nuland, Susan Rice, Samantha Powers, CIA/State, Linda Graham, Soros/Schwab, all the deep state ... so own up

-fJRoberts-


42 posted on 05/30/2023 4:11:05 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: JJBookman

[JoeObama and the Dems are pulling the world into a nuclear confrontation and WW3 and pretty much nobody in the US seems to be aware or even give a rip about it!]

Hey don’t worry about that.

We’re supposed to worry about protecting transgenders.

C’mon man!!


43 posted on 05/30/2023 4:11:30 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mariner

Unfortunately stupid is a leading characteristic of the current White House.


44 posted on 05/30/2023 4:11:58 PM PDT by xp38
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To: dominusobiscum

that was SO damn subtle you’re included


45 posted on 05/30/2023 4:13:05 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: Mariner

Clown— You are addicted to fake Tsar Putin’s nuclear threats. This Kremlin bs made your day.
You know who make the most Rooooskie nuclear bluster? Putin’s stooges on Russian prime time news hour. I have seen many clips of these psychos, hard at it.


46 posted on 05/30/2023 4:15:39 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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To: xp38
[Unfortunately stupid is a leading characteristic of the current White House.]


47 posted on 05/30/2023 4:21:50 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: A strike

> The Washington initiation of this conflict is well documented going back to Minsk and Maiden provocation of Russia. <

I agree. If you are bored, you could go back and check my old posts about this. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, NATO has recklessly provoked Russia. NATO and the EU could have welcomed Russia into the fold. But, no. Instead Russia was treated like a barbarian tribe that had to be humiliated.

On the other hand, Putin overreacted by starting a bloody war. He’s the one who sent tanks across a sovereign border. One should only consider war as a last resort. That wasn’t the case here.

Regardless, the US has no dog in this hunt, as I have noted before. George Washington was right. Avoid foreign entanglements.

By the way, Bush II is equally as guilty as Putin is. Bush didn’t have to unleash death and destruction on Iraq. But, hey. War can be fun. Just try not to lose.

If all this makes me “ignorant”, then I don’t know what else to say.


48 posted on 05/30/2023 4:22:38 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: OVERTIME

“I note that the only prominent political leader in America to opposes this lunatic brinkmanship is despised by the establishment of both parties, of business, the media and academia.”

Who who who is this? Don’t keep us in suspense.


49 posted on 05/30/2023 4:26:55 PM PDT by dennisw (Never attribute to stupidity, that which is adequately explained by malice)
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To: Leaning Right

‘k, not ignorant, then how has Putin overreacted ‘starting’ a bloody war after warning Washington for years against it’s continuous aggressive actions against Russia?


50 posted on 05/30/2023 4:29:18 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: Mariner

“If Russia used tactical nukes against Ukrainian military targets it’s extremely unlikely the US, Britain or France would use nukes against Russia.”

That’s a good point. I think as the Neocons descend to outright terrorism, the temptation to ‘put an end to it’ will grow stronger in Moscow. As to responses to a tactical nuke, forget it - since Russia has now demonstrated that they can defeat the best air defenses that the West has to offer - so regardless of what Western nukes may or may not be able to do to Russia (no one knows at this point), the West has to understand that they’ll be stuck trying to clean up after some big firecrackers go off over their cities.


51 posted on 05/30/2023 4:30:02 PM PDT by BobL
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To: adorno

No, your wrong..Ukraine is not a NATO country. If they were, we’d already be in a real war as per NATO agreement.


52 posted on 05/30/2023 4:36:41 PM PDT by davidb56
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To: A strike

It really isn’t the easiest of calls. Putin had already seen NATO encroach into the Baltic States. That is as provocative as the old USSR putting missiles into Cuba. And we all know how JFK reacted to that.

But at what point do you decide to start a war, and start killing innocents (however accidentally)? War is obviously a terrible, last resort. It will cause widows and orphans to cry for years to come.

I’m trying not to be maudlin here. Instead I’m trying to emphasize that war truly is a last resort. Bush II didn’t see it that way. He ordered the invasion of Iraq. In my mind, that makes him a war criminal. Same with Putin re Ukraine. You don’t shoot wildly into your neighbor’s house just because he is eyeing your land.

Others might differ with my viewpoint. I respect that.


53 posted on 05/30/2023 4:43:24 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Mariner

“ The Sun”

Man, MI6 disinfo is working all the UK tabloids and seems to have convinced the gullible that Putin is an intemperate wanna-be nuke detonator

. Actually the world owes much to the patience and escalation management skill of a leader who seems to be the only adult in the room.


54 posted on 05/30/2023 4:48:58 PM PDT by silverleaf (It’s not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: Mariner

We should have let Ukraine keep their nukes. Thanks Bill.


55 posted on 05/30/2023 4:53:41 PM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: Mariner

Don’t talk. SHOOT!


56 posted on 05/30/2023 5:03:57 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MAGA Republican is my pronoun.)
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To: Mariner

“Anyone who has been in a place to know...would know there would be no military response.”

Response doesn’t mean military response. “Accidents” happen.


57 posted on 05/30/2023 5:04:00 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Leaning Right

Zelensky/AZOV Nuland inspired attacks on Russians in Luhansk and Donetsk.
How long many years was he supposed to put up with oppression/murder of Russians?


58 posted on 05/30/2023 5:04:48 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: Mariner

That’s a ridiculous analysis. It’s already been stated that if they use nukes we will at the very least destroy the Russian black sea fleet.

Putin is desperate and I strongly suspect that he launched these limited drone attacks in Moscow himself.

But if he escalates the war as a result, I suspect that Russia will incur massive further damage.

Hopefully someone in Russia will put Putin out of his misery before he can take this step.

It’s no coincidence that Putin launched this false flag attack because he knows the Ukrainian counter offensive is coming and that his army is about to be humiliated further.


59 posted on 05/30/2023 5:05:25 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: A strike

I’ll tell you this if a real war comes to the United States from these Russian pigs it won’t be very long that we have to put up with quizzlings like you.

Take your sympathy for the filthy Russian dictator murderer to Moscow and sit under a drone.

No real American has an ounce of sympathy for the pig Vladimir Putin.


60 posted on 05/30/2023 5:07:22 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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