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Fact check explores presidential authority to declassify
American Bar Association ^ | 10/24/22 | American Bar Association

Posted on 06/08/2023 5:44:40 PM PDT by tarpit

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Tuesday will be interesting.
1 posted on 06/08/2023 5:44:40 PM PDT by tarpit
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The deep state is showing its desperation. Bigly.


2 posted on 06/08/2023 5:46:39 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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I'd like to see what Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley have to say.
3 posted on 06/08/2023 5:47:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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One question: to which higher authority in the Executive Branch does President Trump request permission to declassify documents?


4 posted on 06/08/2023 5:47:48 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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The wet work gangs at the DOJ will fuel some kook to take Trump out. Then take out the kook. Bank on it.


5 posted on 06/08/2023 5:48:44 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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Bill Clinton’s sock drawer is giggling.


6 posted on 06/08/2023 5:49:34 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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“Declassification cannot occur unless designated officials follow specified procedures,”

Please point to the written procedure the President must follow. I haven't seen it.

7 posted on 06/08/2023 5:49:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: tarpit

Actually, the Clinton sock drawer cas has already established it.


8 posted on 06/08/2023 5:50:34 PM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore………)
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The President decides what’s classified, not some professional affirmative action administrative state bureaucratic parasite.

Only mentally ill pervert supremacists would believe otherwise.


9 posted on 06/08/2023 5:52:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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Exactly. Notifying others as part of declasifying doesn’t mean he cannot declassify something if processes weren’t 100% followed. Its not asking permission, its notifying.


10 posted on 06/08/2023 5:52:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“ Some secrets, such as information related to nuclear weapons, are handled separately under a specific statutory scheme that Congress has adopted under the Atomic Energy Act. Those secrets cannot be automatically declassified by the president alone and require, by law, extensive consultation with executive branch agencies.”

This bears repeating.

Everyone should calm down a bit until we see what is in the indictment.


11 posted on 06/08/2023 5:52:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Both have spoken to the issue. They think the any charge based on classified documents is absurd. The chief executive is exactly that. He doesn’t report to anyone higher in the Executive. Process for low level functionaries do not apply, but of course the eff’n pathetic lives of every eff’n POS government employee is built on process, not competence.


12 posted on 06/08/2023 5:53:20 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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It’s a revenge indictment on behalf of Hillary Clinton:

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🚨🚨🚨MAJOR BREAKING: Donald Trump is facing five years in prison and a felony because of a law HE SIGNED in attempt to punish Hillary Clinton in 2018.

The law HE SIGNED upgrades the crime of wrongly moving classified material from a misdemeanor to a felony.

Trump signed the bill after spending the 2016 presidential campaign accusing Hillary Clinton of improperly handling classified information.

“Trump certainly has legal exposure to Section 1924 given it was classified documents from his spaces in the White House that were removed to Mar-Lago,” said attorney Bradley P. Moss.

This evening, Trump posted on Truth Social that he would be indicted.

Trump said he must report to a Miami courthouse this Tuesday.

6:45 PM · Jun 8, 2023


13 posted on 06/08/2023 5:54:55 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects )
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Policy…procedure…blah…blah…blah…. Bureaucratic policies and procedures can’t trump a President’s constitutional authority. We’ve created such an extra-constitutional administrative state that the bureaucrats and government lawyers actually believe that the Constitution is subordinate to their dictates.


14 posted on 06/08/2023 5:55:38 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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Hillary wasn’t President, a big difference.


15 posted on 06/08/2023 5:56:52 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: Secret Agent Man

I believe the argument can also be made that as chief executive, Trump can make one-time or permanent changes to processes not detailed by law. Rarely does Congress say these are the steps to be taken. They say, such and such entity will fill in the details.


16 posted on 06/08/2023 5:57:27 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. "Two ways," Mike said. "Gradually and then suddenly." )
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He could make an executive order making those exact changes you mention.


17 posted on 06/08/2023 5:58:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Former Asst. Attorney for DOJ under Trump named CClark said tonight that he was contacted, coincidentally today by, I think prosecutors, because they are attempting to take his DC BAR license. Disgusting.


18 posted on 06/08/2023 6:02:45 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: Vermont Lt
“ Some secrets, such as information related to nuclear weapons, are handled separately under a specific statutory scheme that Congress has adopted under the Atomic Energy Act. Those secrets cannot be automatically declassified by the president alone and require, by law, extensive consultation with executive branch agencies.”

(Note: The executive power isn't vested with "executive branch agencies")
20 posted on 06/08/2023 6:13:16 PM PDT by FreeReign
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