Posted on 06/27/2023 5:54:40 PM PDT by george76
EV’s pollute more than an eighteen wheeler when you add in battery mining and disposal.
I just traded out my hybrid, one year old, for a full-size pick up. The pick up was nearly 3 times the price, yet cost me $35 less per month for insurance. Go figure.
Friend of mine on a condo association board said that they just banned EVs in the parking garage. One idiot in the condo owns one - they put up a shelter and make him park it there. The fire risk is such that the insurance companies have started to notice and premiums include an EV surcharge.
“Second, our obsession with centrally planned decarbonisation is causing all sorts of unintended consequences”
Unintended consequences? What an imbecilic thing to say, clearly the writer has an IQ challenge.
LOL... right?
When my wife's ICE crossover (Dodge Journey with curb weight 3,999 lbs) got so worn out it needed replacing, we replaced it with an EV crossover (Hyundai Ioniq 5 with curb weight 4,199 lbs). Oh the horrors! An amazingly large increase of 5%! LOL
Now I'm sure there are other comparisons where the EV weighs a lot more than the ICE car. And I'm aware of plenty of reasons one would not get an EV (i.e. live in cold climate, don't drive enough miles annually to have enough gas savings to be worth it, just bought a new car and have no reason to even contemplate replacing it, live in a 3rd world country like California where the power isn't dependable, etc.). But for our use case, driving 26K miles in the first year of owning our EV has been a good experience, particularly with our 2nd vehicle (we're married and need 2 cars anyway) being an ICE pickup to handle the few driving situations/needs that the EV can't do.
thru the looking glass...
causing road deterioration quicker- which will mean higher mileage taxes every few years- Yay!
Yep
Maybe another universe...
With 10% for the Big Guy
Don’t think we have the same situations here (am in Vietnam) I have a cheap, slow electric vehicle, which works well for our living situation, although we still need a gas vehicle.
Electric is starting to gradually offer real competition in cities.
At least here, where there are very inexpensive new options.
Quite limited range still, for the cheaper options.
I picked up the Ioniq6 a few weeks ago.
Over 300 miles on a charge. In Florida, these cars are starting to make sense. I added a 240 volt 20 AMP circuit in the garage. I run a 16 amp charger. It adds back about 10 miles of charge per hour with this level 2 charger. I can also add 300 miles in about a half hour at an Electrify America charging station, for free.
With the driving I do, this car is perfect. From central FL I can reach every big city in the state with ease. Plenty of charging stations.
My typical day is less than 100 miles, so the car is always “full”, ready for a 300 mile trip, every morning.
It’s so nice having Hunter at the big guy’s side, 24-7, as he slides into dementia. Having a crack head who collected bribes for a living at the helm of our national government is so reassuring. I need to thank democrats for putting this POS into the oval office.
Tesla
A coupla points I absolutely can't get behind with EV's. One item is them being controlled from afar by unknown entities or software ala Idiocracy.
And as it works with "cordless" tools you're at the mercy of the batteries. When they stop functioning the replacements cost almost as much as the tool with batteries. Bad enough with inexpensive tools. No thanks with a pricey vehicle. I know some folks like my FIL are ok with eternal car payments. I have no interest in that.
Some days it's ok to be older.. d;^)
One thing I can't stand about modern politics is how the Dims polarize everything, and us conservatives fall for it. Even if we think we're arguing against the Dims, in a way we're supporting the Dims' polarization efforts by arguing against whatever they're for without arguing mainly that they shouldn't force the rest of us to do like they like to do. Take EV's for example. The Dim leaders make their followers religiously believe that anybody who is against the government forcing everyone into EV's is trying to kill the planet. That is stupid. We should call them out for enveloping all of their efforts around a façade of "saving the world". But our side doesn't do that if all we say is EV's are bad and should be banned. If that's all we say, then we're helping the Dim leaders promote an atmosphere of polarization where people seem to win if the government controls us and forces the other side to comply.
What our side should always, always, always push is that control-freak government is bad, and that the Dims should adopt our policy of live and let live and quit falling for the Dim cult BS that makes them believe that people outside their cult should be punished.
About my I5, I usually charge mine on the minimum setting (5.6kW) to reduce the amount of power I pull from the grid. Sounds strange: most EV owners charge at the fastest rate possible at home to reduce the loss when converting from AC to DC. But I also have 20kW of solar and a large battery stack at home. So the power is usually free, but one situation that will cause my solar inverters to pull power from the grid is if my overall power load exceeds the 18kW continuous AC power my inverters can supply without having to pull the extra from the grid. Thus, if I usually charge the EV at a lower setting there's less odds that the EV charging + running whatever other appliances happen to be running at the same time exceeds 18kW. Or if the load does exceed, I don't want it to exceed it by much (and thus pull only a little from the grid instead of a lot). That's also part of the benefit of other appliances running more efficiently: the home cooled by a variable speed heat pump and variable speed blower (though almost constantly running, it's usually at low power). Same for the 50 gallon water heater being a hybrid water heater (usually set to run in efficiency mode with draws 300W instead of 4kW like a standard electric water heater or 12kW like I think inline electric water heaters do).
yup
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