Posted on 08/01/2023 2:26:51 PM PDT by thegagline
No it's not. I see putting Trump back in office as completely self-defeating. They've got him tied up from head to toe in legal cases, which will take his full focus to properly address. Obviously that's not fair, but it is reality. His record as President is mixed, anyway, and ended on the worst possible note. He probably won't succeed in either goal, trying to do both. And we will pay the price, just as much if not more, than him, if we put all our eggs in his basket.
The continued radical criminality of the Bidens and those associated with them, with no consequences
I already addressed this. Trump had 4 full years as the chief law enforcement officer in the land to do something about Hillary, or the Bidens, and did nothing. He promised to get us the full Obama records, nothing. JFK files? A snippet. I have no faith in him. Look at his appointments as AG, Deputy AG, FBI director, etc. Pretty much all rats. And who's going to help him this time? Lindsey Graham for AG?
The purposed creation of food shortages in order to kill millions; The purposed destruction of transportation to control and kill millions; The purposed destruction of the US currency to force us onto government electronic money, in order to completely control millions;
All WEF agenda, and Trump is big buddies with Klaus Schwab. Want to see the videos of him over in Davos, kissing up? One of his kids is even a WEF Young Globalist Leader, and proud of it. Trump also passed multiple exec orders on well documented, high priority WEF items, like AI, 5G, GMO foods, now he's even championing their 15-minute city concept for America. Are you aware of any of this? Or is it supposed to be off limits to discuss?
You choose to focus on the persecution of one man, siding with the persecutors.
I've said on here countless times I think Trump is being unfairly targeted with the prosecutions, and am hopeful he can defend himself. But he needs to be doing that, not just stirring the pot even more by constantly calling the prosecutor "deranged" if not worse. Make a coherent argument, if you have one. Do not resort to childish insults. These are simple conservatives principles, including the rules of this board, for a reason.
So I'm not going to just blindly support someone like that, when it looks to me like he's once again just going to make a bad situation, even worse. And yes, THIS IS the biggest issue we have to deal with right now, nothing else comes close. We have to find someone who can actually fight these problems, not just his, and win. And he's on a losing streak like none I've seen in a long time.
So that’s your final position on this subject? That it hasn’t yet been disproven that Melania’s hairdresser is actually a political consultant in disguise. I guess that’s what they talk about, rather than the normal gossip between hairdressers and their clients, she wants her hairdresser to help them make decisions about how to run the country. Ok got it. Thanks.
No, I’ve already told you that EVERY campaign pays stylists, designers, etc. It’s standard practice, lol. And it is part of their campaign strategy, whether you can understand that or not. Optics is part of strategy. For the men and the women in the campaign. Men’s clothes just happen to be a lot cheaper, especially when the strategy consultants tell them to “dress in a blue button up shirt with the sleeves rolled up and the top button unbuttoned”. But I suppose you think it’s a coincidence that every male candidate dresses like that when they visit a rural or blue collar area, and not a result of campaign strategy.
Apparently you don’t remember Mooch’s designer dresses, and you also don’t remember Sarah Palin getting dressed up in designer clothes that the Mitt Romney campaign strategists picked out for her and paid for. But just because you can’t understand something or don’t remember something doesn’t create a new crime or outrage out of thin air. You’re just looking for something to get outraged about, but only about Trump, never about anyone else who does the same things. There’s a word for people like that, but I suppose you won’t remember that word either.
Yeah, well, I asked for some proof, and apparently you still have none.
Apparently you don’t remember Mooch’s designer dresses, and you also don’t remember Sarah Palin getting dressed up in designer clothes
We already discussed this as well, and I said my understanding is, pretty much all of those expensive dresses are donated by the designer for advertising. Are you disputing that?
Consider the source.
You do know what the ownership of the NYP is, hmmmm?
I've said on here countless times I think Trump is being unfairly targeted with the prosecutions
Then stop concentrating your attention on Trump and start concentrating your attention on all the other very important matters.
Can you effect the other issues if you focus on them? Maybe, maybe not. However, can you effect the other issues if you DON'T focus on them? Definitely not.
Good. she was a fine First Lady. Beats that Sea Hag we have now.
I believe it is your Meatball that can’t stop spending. Paying his credit card bills with campaign money.
I have, and I will. Bit if we just keep the same people in place as our supposed fighters on the issues and problems we face, nothing will change. They are part of the reason we’re here now. I think anyone who was in a leadership position in 2020 needs to be run out of town on a rail, Jim Jordan included. Thanks.
Not to my eye. Your focus appears to be largely confined to Trump.
“I asked for some proof”
You asked for data that isn’t available, LOL. I already provided you with two examples of other campaigns doing the same thing, in very well known examples that were covered endlessly in the media. If that’s not good enough for you, that’s your problem and nobody else’s.
“Are you disputing that?”
Yes, why don’t you “show some proof” of your contention, because I’m most definitely disputing it. Show us where designers “donated” all the designer clothes that Mitt Romney’s campaign bought for Sarah Palin.
Here Are the Designers Who Have Donated to Hillary Clinton
https://www.thecut.com/2016/10/fashion-designers-who-are-hillary-clinton-supporters.html
No, you didn’t pay for Michelle Obama’s gowns
https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation/no-you-didnt-pay-for-them/2182429/
How Michelle Obama really pays for her wardrobe
https://stylecaster.com/fashion/celebrity-looks/243511/michelle-obama-wardrobe/
And of course, no response to the actual question I asked, about who “donated” all the designer clothes that Mitt Romney’s campaign bought for Sarah Palin.
Well boo freaking hoo. If you had suffered a heart related vaccine injury from his stupid warp speed poison you might not be too keen about him getting back in power either. I’ll support him on these cases if he’s innocent, but not if he’s guilty. I’m just not going to be in total lockstep like some Democrat drone. And yes Hillary and Hunter weren’t equally investigated, or charged, but he had the chance to do that, and promised to do it, but failed.
Palin was a candidate. Melania is a wife. I gave examples of other President’s wives. They often have their clothes donated to them, which was the point.
“Palin was a candidate. Melania is a wife.”
So what? Wives are part of a candidate’s campaign. Just because you want to pretend that isn’t reality doesn’t mean anyone else is obligated to join you.
Palin isn’t a billionaire, either. Like I said, it may be legal, probably is, doesn’t mean it’s not unseemly for Trump to do this. Even Moochelle kept this from being an issue for them. Shocking.
Ah HA! The truth will always out.
This is personal, with you.
It doesn't make it better, but at least is understandable.
However, I suggest you are pointing at the wrong perp. Trump definitely effed up by listening to the WEF crowd, but it was the WEF crowd that conceived and implemented this scheme.
BTW, not only was Trump fooled by these evil people, but also you, and I. I took the Clot Shot. It hasn't caused me any problems yet, but even if it does, I will place the blame where it belongs: WEF.
Ooh “unseemly”. I’m sure everyone gives a big ol’ pile of care about what you think is “unseemly”.
I don’t mention it often, hardly ever, but you’re an old timer here, and I figured it would help you understand. I was still supporting Trump when it happened, mostly. But, after it happened, and he came back from his 2021 ~year long vacation and gave that interview with Candace Owens, and claimed that HE was the inventor of the vaccines, and that they were quote “one of the greatest achievements in the history of mankind” I pretty much knew my support for him from that point on would be a struggle.
But when I then started doing some actual research, and found out he had actually tried to hire Bill Gates as the Chief Scientist of the White House, a light bulb started going off. Either this guy is compromised, or a boob. Either way, the dangers are the same. Sure, the WEF, Gates, etc are the root problem. But Trump has been their enabler, if not partner. He’s still never even mentioned the words “gain of function” in public, that I can find. And that’s just unacceptable, in my opinion, for someone who should know so much about this subject, and as I also learned in my research, was the one whose administration RE-instated gain of function research in early 2018. Thanks.
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