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Tuberville says Ukraine can’t win war: ‘It’s a junior high team playing a college team’
The Hill ^ | 08/08/2023 | SARAH FORTINSKY

Posted on 08/08/2023 8:17:43 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: MeganC

Ukraine needs to stop dying for woke, green, perverted DC globalists. I’m surprised you saw through your Uniparty colored glasses long enough to know to acknowledge that Russian figure of approximately 300,000 dead Ukes was correct.


41 posted on 08/08/2023 11:16:51 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: avital2

confrontation ? i prefer eradication!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yes, I was referring to the beginning, you’re referring to the end. Same thing only different!


42 posted on 08/08/2023 11:16:56 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat
--- "...I've learned over many years to be cautious concerning the reliability of quoted/cited sources."

Totally agree. Which is why, once a citation is given, I often look to bolster such citation with additional sources.

We seem to be living in a time when lies, which get their boots on so fast, are propagated in many ways. Ergo, it is good to begin with asking for a source, then another and then another, as possible. Ditto with "show your work,: as we were sometimes asked to do in school (in yesteryear).

But at least an assertion by someone who refuses to offer (or respond with) a citation or reference proves -- at the minimum -- that an assertion remains an assertion. Full stop, as the Brits would say.

Happy Tuesday to you.

43 posted on 08/08/2023 11:17:45 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: odawg

But the pissing contest isn’t over yet.


44 posted on 08/08/2023 11:20:27 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Levy78

“but tactically the Russians are really stupid and always have been to varying degrees.”

That’s Rich! The Russians take the territory they targeted, fall back to built layered defenses for 10 months, then sit back and watch the Ukes destroy what’s left of their army futilely attacking the impregnable Russian lines. Love those Uke tactics.


45 posted on 08/08/2023 11:21:52 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Oodles and Oodles of members of the Worship Biden church will ensure that never happens. They runout of Ukrainians to kill, they will send Americans [except themselves]. All that matters
to them is that the Biden Crime Cartel continues to receive their Blood Money.


46 posted on 08/08/2023 11:24:45 AM PDT by sport
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The way it turns out is he’s right

The vaunted Russian military is shown to be mostly 8th and 9th graders.


47 posted on 08/08/2023 11:28:59 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I'm surprised Tuberville actually appeared on Fox. Several weeks ago (July 16) it had been reported that a Fox & Friends morning producer had been fired for booking him on the show. Laura obviously knew that and decided she would challenge the Fox powers that be. She likely let Fox know that if they fired her, they would sink even further into the legacy media morass.

Fox News begins 'company-wide layoffs'
Moore goes on to report his source as saying that Fox's shows are getting "frantic, bipolar guidance almost daily on blacklisted and unblacklisted guests, including sitting members of the Senate." In subsequent Twitter messages, Moore gave as an example U.S. Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL). Moore in one message, wrote, "According to multiple sources, @TTuberville was banned from the prominent shows on the network . . ." Moore, in a separate message, also suggested that Fox fired an executive producer for Fox & Friends after this individual invited Tuberville onto her show.

48 posted on 08/08/2023 11:39:13 AM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: The medical equivalent of Russian roulette!)
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To: MeganC

Interesting comment. I agree with your take on it. The
Ukraine is making Russia pay a price for its ill thought
out actions.

You can dog the folks back home for a period of time, but
with numbers like that 283,000 figure, there’s going to be
a whole lot of families that are vitriolically furious.

Other leaders in Russia are going to be very leery of
supporting further action.

If this guy wants to talk about high school versus the
college team, he better remember that the high school team
took out 283,000 of the college team members since April
of 2022.

Those aren’t all deaths, but they are deaths and seriously
injured.

You think people are actually going to sign on to a
campaign to take back Alaska? LOL

Who is advising this troll?


49 posted on 08/08/2023 12:14:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

i’m with you!


50 posted on 08/08/2023 12:34:36 PM PDT by avital2
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To: MikeHu
Russia does not need to take over the rest of the world.

It already has most of the natural resources, a highly educated and competent citizenry, probably the most competent leader of these times, and only 140 million people occupying the largest land mass in the world — rich with natural resources. It already has a massive advantage, and a good relationship with its manufacturing powerhouse neighbor China

With its 11 local times, Russia is one of the countries with the most time zones worldwide. While France and its dependencies stretch across 12 time zones, Russia holds another world record:

10 of the country's 11 time zones cover a contiguous landmass—only the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, wedged between Lithuania and Poland, breaks that pattern.

51 posted on 08/08/2023 12:47:50 PM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads and Grumpy Grandads.)
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To: AAABEST

“There is is no plan to remove Russia from the real estate they took. It doesn’t exist.”

Ironic you post this the same day Ukraine established another bridgehead across the Dnieper putting them one step closer to retaking Mariupol.


52 posted on 08/08/2023 1:14:25 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25hWjlZrFA&pp=ygUPd2FydGhvZyBkZWZlbnNl


53 posted on 08/08/2023 1:15:38 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MikeHu

“According to Scott Ritter”

Please stop supporting this child molesting monster on FR. Thank you.


54 posted on 08/08/2023 1:17:27 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: DoughtyOne

“Those aren’t all deaths, but they are deaths and seriously
injured.”

Obituaries are not written for the wounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25hWjlZrFA&pp=ygUPd2FydGhvZyBkZWZlbnNl


55 posted on 08/08/2023 1:20:32 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The underlying purpose of the war was to kill a lot of Ukrainians and Russians. So far, it’s been very successful.


56 posted on 08/08/2023 1:48:29 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: MeganC

Thanks. I missed that if it was linked before.

You know, it’s very difficult to keep up on what is taking
place.

About three weeks to a month back, I read an account that
stated only about 40,000 Russian troops had died so far,
and that larger numbers of severely wounded had made up
the number of troops that had to be replaced.

Now you present this and it’s just tough to deal with it
all.

I knew there were a lot of casualties due to the numbers
of more folks they had to call up. They called up 100,000
and then 300,000.

I don’t know how to validate this woman’s claims. She
may be very close to right on target her admitting that
some obits may have been dualities, but how do I come
to some sort of accurate understanding?

I tend to think she’s high, but I don’t really know.

We lost close to 58,220 over the ten years in Vietnam.

Look what Russia has lost in 16 months.


57 posted on 08/08/2023 1:53:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: MeganC; DoughtyOne
Hi, Megan, I noticed that you posted the link to a video by "Warthog Defense," As I have now found enough third party references to be able to locate where a YouTube channel's "content creator" posts from, you might wish to know this too.

Warthog Defense, as a YouTube channel, 1) posts to YouTube from the United States, 2) is monetized by YouTube, 23) was "created" on Sep 13, 2016, and 4) takes in an average of $110,586.74 per year.

I had asked you specfically, "I just looked to find a URL linked to an official statement, and been this morning unable to find it. Can you share the URL?"

So as you see, this particular YouTube channel is not an "official" channel of the Ukrainian or Russian government. It is an opinion by a "content creator" within and abiding by the criteria for Google/ YouTube.

Warthog Defense's Patreon shows it slipping significantly in donations through that company, currently to $18 a month, so its patrons through them has slipped dramatically over time, and now stands at just four.

Source: https://graphtreon.com/creator/warthogdefense

Another source, one of several with similar services, shows it located as "content creator" in the US, and an estimated range of income is also shown. "$56.2K - $898.6K" because YouTube does not further make actual payments public. I will leave it to you to further check for yourself.

Source: https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/warthogproduction

You did not reply with an "official" reference. This is my and many others' issue with the whole "news" about the Ukraine-Russia war. Lots of unofficial opinion. Little actual official information.

58 posted on 08/08/2023 2:09:37 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MeganC
As to further information from news sources:

"According to an assessment collated by the U.S. Defence Intelligence Agency, Russia has suffered 189,500-223,000 total casualties, including 35,500-43,000 killed in action and 154,000-180,000 wounded.

Ukraine has suffered 124,500-131,000 total casualties, including 15,500-17,500 killed in action and 109,000-113,500 wounded in action, according to the document entitled "Russia/Ukraine - Assessed Combat Sustainability and Attrition."

The figures are around 10 times bigger than any public casualty figures published by either Moscow or Kyiv." Reuters, 12 April 2023.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-war-already-with-up-354000-casualties-likely-drag-us-documents-2023-04-12/

"U.S. and European officials have estimated that as many as 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded...." WaPo, 13 May 2023.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/13/ukraine-casualties-pessimism-ammunition-shortage/

There's some sources. Tends to validate that two non-NATO nations are brutalizing each other. How it will end? Nobody knows. But... ..."The figures are around 10 times bigger than any public casualty figures published by either Moscow or Kyiv." There's Reuters and WaPo with URLs. Horrible thing, without a doubt.
59 posted on 08/08/2023 2:18:03 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; MeganC

Did she sell herself as a government source? Did anyone
else? Did she or anyone else claim the government as her
source?

Seems like you’re trying to prove something already taken
for granted.

She seemed to have a method of finding Obits for people.
That may or may not be true.

I don’t take anything I hear out of that region or any
place else as gospel. I store it away.

Sorry if you do.

Believe me, we hear all sorts of Russian side info off
sites that are simply humiliating to admit you’ve read
something from, so it goes both ways.


60 posted on 08/08/2023 2:23:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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